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On Trouser Pockets

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#161
Propper's STL pant series take a similar tact for their cargo pockets. It's definitely a massive improvement in terms of business-casual looking workwear that doesn't sacrifice utility.

I hope pockets like these do take off. I know too many women who've lamented the fact that they have few options for practical pants that don't also trade out the style of tighter-fitting women's wear.

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#162
I agree with the baseline principles, but these pockets are at the edge of reach, which is far from convenient. I was sure they would end up with a waist level pocket, in a stretchy material, on top of the belt area.

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Y'all are a little touchy about someone criticizing your cargo pants! Consider that perhaps his criticism hits a nerve because there is an element of truth in it - for most people (myself included as a younger person), the symbolism of cargo pants is as important as the function.

> most people Have you performed a survey? My intuition, from my own experience, is that most people are completely ignorant of the symbolism of cargo pants and use them solely for the cargo feature. I wear Eddie Bauer "Guide Pro" pants. I recommend them, mostly. I haven't found more stylish cargo pants. https://www.eddiebauer.com/p/12951063/men-s-guide-pro-pants

These pants look fine. When I think of cargo pants, I think of ridiculously large pockets that really only work in the context of the baggy style of the late 90s/early 00s. It's not my favorite look (though it was when I was a kid), but you can make it work on some level. Anyway, when most people are criticizing cargo pants, I believe they have the jumbo pockets in mind. Another poster correctly noted that they ruin a silhouette. The pants you linked don't have this issue as far as I can tell.

Note, this is just my impression. Maybe there are people out there who just really hate extra pockets.

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#164
I hadn't even really thought about it, but I've had pockets like this for a few years in pants from Patagonia and Black Diamond. They are indeed quite nice, exactly as the author describes. Best for a phone or slender wallet.

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>"Appendix: Sam, have you simply invented cargo pants? >No. Cargo pants are fashion-as-pretend-occupation — when not at work, wear a fancy chronometer to suggest you’re a pilot or a diver, or camo to suggest you’re in the military. Cargo pants are a paratrooper costume. Cargo shorts have giant external pouches so teenagers in the 90’s, trapped in school, could say (sartorially) “I go out into the world and do adventu…

I ain't seeing that rant about cargo pants in the article:

> Appendix: Sam, have you simply invented cargo pants?

> No. Cargo pants solve different problems for different people.

> If cargo pants are appropriate for your daily life, you definitely don’t want or need my side-seam welt pockets; and vice-versa. Cargo pants aren’t office-wear; these dress pants aren’t combat-wear.

Maybe the author softened the language there?

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Wasn't meant to be an attack -- they just solve a different problem for a different demographic. Like I said -- if you can wear cargo pants at work, then these pants probably don't mean much to you.

I'm currently at work (thank Pomodoro for HN breaks, curse Murphy for causing everything to fall apart at the same time on a Friday). I'm a college-educated, homeowner, married, father of one, controls engineer. I spend my days at work between my office programming and designing industrial automation equipment, on the shop floor building it, and customer sites selling, upgrading, or maintaining it. I'm not a punk kid…

My interpretation was precisely that: dad pants. Personally, I find cargo pants (and shorts my god) incredibly unflattering. Additionally, the proliferation of pockets is a bit silly for many people since phone, wallet, and keys are fairly easy to fit even in skinny jeans. If you need more than go for it and if you like the look, go for it!

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#167

I'd be curious to know how other people are handling this problem without employing cargo pants or custom clothing like this. I'm a guy who likes wearing skinny jeans and agree that stuffing a wallet, too many security keys, a knife, and a huge phone into the pockets kind of distorts the aesthetic. Do other guys / girls just carry their stuff in backpacks?

You never noticed that lots of people have purses? They are designed to solve exactly this problem :) Jeans designed for women tend to have smaller pockets and of course a legging or a skirt or dress doesn’t have pockets at all. The big downside with purses is that they require your hands and you can forget them on a train, unlike your pockets.

I imagine that’s why in urban areas the small corded Gucci/Louis Vuitton purses have become very popular with men and women alike, as they overcome some of the practical downsides, they’re more like fanny packs in the sense that they leave your hands free and stay close to your body. The fanny pack itself has made something of a comeback too, although now you wear them slung over a shoulder instead of around your hip.

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>"Appendix: Sam, have you simply invented cargo pants? >No. Cargo pants are fashion-as-pretend-occupation — when not at work, wear a fancy chronometer to suggest you’re a pilot or a diver, or camo to suggest you’re in the military. Cargo pants are a paratrooper costume. Cargo shorts have giant external pouches so teenagers in the 90’s, trapped in school, could say (sartorially) “I go out into the world and do adventu…

Funny enough the designer in the video you mentioned has specifically perfected the phone pocket already.

https://imgur.com/a/NgzjJP7

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#169

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Pretty much but I should point out that you can’t easily find carpenter pants anymore. And I view the gamer loop as about as useful as the coin pocket: purely decorative in nature.

> And I view the gamer loop as about as useful as the coin pocket: purely decorative in nature. I use the coin pocket extensively: for coins, medicine, chewing gum etc.

Fine also for keychain-sized multitools, in my experience.

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#170

I would add one item to the list of requirements: as I walk around and engage in other movements, objects should not flop around uncomfortably or jiggle around and make noise more than necessary. That is a big advantage of locating pockets near the hips. First of all, as you walk your hips stay in a relatively fixed position, whereas your knees move back and forth a lot. So items nearer the knees are swung back and f…

I have the same complaint. Perhaps a hidden, floating, spandex style layer that encapsulates the pocket and contents against the leg would solve that issue? This could be done while minimizing impact to the outer appearance.

Lululemon does this on their lined shorts.
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