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Why would the app stores agree to do that? Apple in particular is pretty well-known for refusing invasive government requests.
Because it would be the law
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Yours? Probably not. But it isn't about you. We already know that social media can be, and is, used to track details by nation states on all sorts of things, from the movement of individuals of interest, as well as things such as estimating the population of military bases, discovering military operations, etc. A foreign government having access to all of that data for a huge portion of the population is 100% a natio…
Then ban military people from using it, problem solved. This level of paranoia looks more like the Soviet Union[1] than it does like a free country. [1] Where you couldn't even buy a map, because heaven forbid, foreign spies might use them to compromise... National security. They might learn the distances between the army base, and the hospital, and then who knows what diabolical plot they may hatch?
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This makes zero sense. What material information will they learn about my neighbour from my phone?
For example match car plate numbers with locations and timestamps. By analyzing millions of videos they can build a driving pattern for a particular vehicle.
If this is the best argument that can be made, then national security is safe as houses.
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This makes zero sense. What material information will they learn about my neighbour from my phone?
I'm spitballing, but here goes. A) Your neighbor's laptop is partially compromised, and part of what is obtained is a list of APs with which it has been associated. B) Your phone has TikTok installed, and part of what is obtained is your location and the available APs (while you're using the app, only). C) You use your phone to view TikTok videos in the middle of the night, at home. Because of B+C, the foreign actor…
And if they want to know where my neighbour lives, they could just consult a... Land deed registry. Or their resume.
Or... Run a credit check on them. That last one will also give personal information at a level of fidelity right down to the number of nose hairs that they plucked this morning.
But let's cycle back to that. How does knowing my neighbour's address compromise national security? Am I compromising national security by telling you that John Leslie lives in Apt 341 on my floor? Even if he works for the Air Force?
Keep in mind - the man has to live somewhere. What relevance of note does where he lives in particular have to a nation state?
TikTok appears to be the first China technology media company, that can actually make a dent in the universe.
It wasn’t WeChat from Tencent. Nor anything from Alibaba; I don’t think they’re in the media space. Nor search from Baidu. Nor Sina Weibo for tweets.
I can’t think of any other Chinese media company, that can actually make an impact, on the world, just yet.
Perhaps the USA government is trying to kill this fledgling company, while it’s still small. It still hasn’t reached the prevalence of Facebook or YouTube or Twitter yet.
The funny thing is, for a while, TikTok was trying to discourage political content. Just stick to fun dance moves. They tried to tell their users to keep that vile political stuff to Twitter and Facebook; and then, they got criticized for censorship. LOL.
What would it mean to "ban" an app? Would they force Apple and Google not to distribute it? Would they set up a national firewall?
Just ask the app stores to ban them. The US couldn’t do anything more sophisticated right now, and that would solve most of their concerns.
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>>I am certainly wary of having my data handled by US companies that aren't big enough to be scared of GDPR. In that one comment, you have explained everything anyone needs to know as to why most of the tech innovation originates in the US and not from within Europe, and also why this situation is probably never going to change.
This is fine by me. I am glad to let the Americans pay the price and reap the benefits. I value different things.
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There's no independent large private company in China right now anyways, ByteDance is controlled by the CCP just like any other large Chinese company (tech or not). And decisions like this do help to hurt the CCP, it reduces the reach of Chinese tech companies.
The CCP high officials don't really care about anyone but their own relatives and cronies, while your assumption is mostly right as in the cases like Alibaba and Tencent, ByteDance isn't exactly like them, it has a kind of autonomy and internationalization those companies wouldn't dare to dream of. ByteDance isn't as beholden to the party as those two since it's a startup capitalized on the app economy, it's growth i…
And as the private investors, well, they will soon learn how the CCP works...
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> I'm not sure that a foreign company has any rights under > the constitution to begin with. Would that be this foreign corporation that is incorporated in the checks notes State of California? https://businesssearch.sos.ca.gov/Document/RetrievePDF?Id=03... (Yes, I know this is a company owned by the Beijing based ByteDance but that’s not immediately disqualifying of this US corporation run under US law being able to…
It's not immediately disqualifying, no, but it would almost certainly be squashed quite quickly by the US's NSL. (Funny how the NSL in HK and the US are both so pertinent in China related discussions these past few days!) Having set up a corporation on US soil does not grant free pass to a foreign government to spy on US citizens.
I like Chinese tiktok "for you" recommendation than YouTube's recommended. Tiktoks reco is like yeah I will watch that, most of the time I am like thanks. Keep recommending like this. Youtube is like, algorithm thinks it has figured me but it's sort of showing me the same old videos like it's new. I will throw my data to China.