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Re: First .dev Domains Go Live

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Post by CydeWeys »

jhgg wrote: post #159
CydeWeys wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, because we're currently in the early access program, which is a Dutch auction. Once the auction ends on the 28th, domains will be available starting from the base registration price.

How does a company who owns a trademark get a domain early like Slack and Github did?

You need to get your trademark into the Trademark Clearinghouse: https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/about/trademark-clearinghouse

Then you use a corporate domain name registrar to register it during the sunrise phase.

Re: First .dev Domains Go Live

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Post by vokep »

jrockway wrote: post #141
OedipusRex wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is privatization of the web.

It's not. You can make your own DNS server and sell records to anyone you want. You just have to convince users to type in your address instead of 8.8.8.8.

Realistically, how could a project be setup around this?

I mean, how do we get everyday normal people to use it?

Its been attempted before (namecoin etc)...but maybe some advantage could be given to make it more attractive.

Re: First .dev Domains Go Live

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Post by CydeWeys »

josteink wrote: post #153
dragonwriter wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But nobody with any respect for themselves has an un-ISP doing borderline illegal shit like that. advertising and malware (both ad-related and not) injection by ISPs is a well documented global issue.

If so, that’s a local problem and you fix it with regulation, not technology.

Burglary is illegal but you still lock your front door.

Defrauding someone electronically is illegal but you still encrypt your data in transit.

Re: First .dev Domains Go Live

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Post by JMTQp8lwXL »

snowwolf wrote: post #3

Slack and Github were so worried about someone cybersquatting that they were willing to pay $11,500 each to get those domains today? I guess that's the point of the Dutch auction system, but still seems like a waste of money.

If you buy the domain during trademark holder's period, you pay the normal price, and not the day 1 landrush price. So no, Slack et. al. did not pay $11,500 to secure their name.

Re: First .dev Domains Go Live

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Post by ekc »

everdev wrote: post #156

The example domains linked to in the announcement are all down for me: https://get.dev/ https://github.dev/ https://grow.dev/ https://accessibility.dev/ https://slack.dev/ etc.

Working for me; sounds like a DNS issue on your end.

Re: First .dev Domains Go Live

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Post by joemi »

OedipusRex wrote: post #111
morpheuskafka wrote: post #68

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First come, first served. Just like real estate. It's not a trademark or anything.

Except it's not, Google has price ranges for registration dates. So if you wanted to registered today (Feb 19th) that's gonna cost you $11,500, but if you want to wait until it's free, that's 10 days from now. https://domains.google/tld/dev/

That's still first come first served.

Re: First .dev Domains Go Live

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Post by ksec »

michaelt wrote: post #105
uniformlyrandom wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

.dev is only prohibitively expensive during the pre-sale. After Feb 28, there will be no extra charge ($0 one-time fee).

Unless it's a "premium domain" which has a separate pricing structure, independent of the release phase, and renewal fees that stay higher forever. Hence, right now kjaegrlkjnfvaf.dev is "$11,500 + $12/year" [0] while hn.dev is "$11,500 + $720/year" [1] So alex.dev and aj.dev will cost $720/year forever, tim.dev, james.dev and emma.dev are $360/year, tony.dev and grace.dev are $180/year, olivia.dev and harry.dev are…

Do Premium name stays premium forever? If they don't get registered for 2 - 3 years, would it drop its price?

I mean with these sort of pricing, are Startup suppose to be creative with their name or else they are forced to pay thousands to Google every year.

Re: First .dev Domains Go Live

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Post by the_jeremy »

benologist wrote: post #15

On a recent thread Google personnel mentioned that ICANN forces all domain providers to backup their data so that any domain provider going bankrupt won't affect domains. However there was no mention of what procedures Google Domains themselves have put in place to protect their customers in case their customers get irreversibly banned somewhere within Google's vast empire. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=191787…

do you have a registrar recommendation? I'm planning on a .dev being my first domain.
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