Me: "Wow [myfirstname].dev is available! I gotta get it!" Aaaaaaand its $11,500.
Same experience, huge turn-off. I was hoping for `.dev` to be free and along the lines of letsencrypt.org. Very disappointed
First .dev Domains Go Live
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Re: First .dev Domains Go Live
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
Everything I said is true for Google Registry too... and anywhere else Google sells domains. They each should be ensuring domain portability for their respective customers and so far they're not doing that.
Can you clarify what exactly you think we're not doing? (Google Registry, that is.) Transfers are a contractually mandated requirement by ICANN, and we definitely support them. Also, because of GDPR and WHOIS privacy/proxies, we frequently don't even know who the registrant for a given domain is anyway.
What is the support number for people to call when Google locks them out of their account because of an unrelated issue with a separate Alphabet property? There is an established track record for Google screwing over people unfairly.
Re: First .dev Domains Go Live
#123How did Google get in charge of this? Why did they get to set the price points for registering these domains? ICANN really sold out for this one.
A couple years ago ICANN started letting companies buy customized TLDs through an auction process. I'm not sure how much they paid, but for comparison, Google tried buying .blog a while ago but was outbid by Automattic, who paid $19 million. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11686086
Re: First .dev Domains Go Live
#124Me: "Wow [myfirstname].dev is available! I gotta get it!" Aaaaaaand its $11,500.
Try to register through Gandi. They give you options that decrease in price all the way down to ~$16 -- that's the "get it when it GAs" price. If someone scoops it up before you, you're refunded. Otherwise, it's yours. I managed to get .dev, and it's a somewhat common last name, for $133.50 on the "GA" pricing. I expect someone will grab it before then. But if not...
Nah, it says "Unavailable" on Gandi. It seems that somebody paid full price, although it is not operative => mauricio.dev
Re: First .dev Domains Go Live
#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
localhost is reserved for a very different purpose, though .local is a reserved pseudo-TLD for a purpose encompassing much of what was suggest by GP for .dev.
.local is for multicast. Don’t use it for anything else unless you want a headache.
Or support multicast/mDNS and use .local.
I feel like mDNS isn't used enough in general so there are weird cross-implementation bugs in it. (Partly just because of weird overlaps between early Bonjour entities, modern mDNS stacks, and weird-in-betweeners like "UPnP".) A lot more peer-to-peer applications could bootstrap better from mDNS than currently do simply because bootstrapping from known HTTP(S) endpoints is easier and less buggy.
I've wondered at times if, say, enterprise adoption of .local and proper mDNS might be a kick in the pants to sort out mDNS and make it better for everyone.
Re: First .dev Domains Go Live
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
They are, the domains are reverse-dutch auctioned. Buying a .dev domain today is like ~$10000, it'll be $12 in 2 weeks. Edit: Normal dutch, not reverse.
> reverse-dutch auction Why? Even if it's "cute", it serves no other purpose than racking up prices and keeping buyers second-guessing themselves. Just run a normal Dutch or a second-price auction.
This is a normal Dutch auction.
If your question is why not run a standard auction, the answer is that operational overhead to do that is much higher than simply having a given price for creations on a given day, and there'd thus be fewer registrars participating. You need a whole eBay-like experience to run a standard auction; it's a non-trivial amount of work just to support one launch.
Re: First .dev Domains Go Live
#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you clarify what exactly you think we're not doing? (Google Registry, that is.) Transfers are a contractually mandated requirement by ICANN, and we definitely support them. Also, because of GDPR and WHOIS privacy/proxies, we frequently don't even know who the registrant for a given domain is anyway.
What happens to the domains in your account if your Google account has become banned? Same question for your colleagues at Google Domains.
What account? There's nothing to login to, you can't buy domains directly on Google Registry.
Re: First .dev Domains Go Live
#128How did Google get in charge of this? Why did they get to set the price points for registering these domains? ICANN really sold out for this one.
A couple years ago ICANN started letting companies buy customized TLDs through an auction process. I'm not sure how much they paid, but for comparison, Google tried buying .blog a while ago but was outbid by Automattic, who paid $19 million. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11686086
This is privatization of the web.
Re: First .dev Domains Go Live
#129On a recent thread Google personnel mentioned that ICANN forces all domain providers to backup their data so that any domain provider going bankrupt won't affect domains. However there was no mention of what procedures Google Domains themselves have put in place to protect their customers in case their customers get irreversibly banned somewhere within Google's vast empire. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=191787…
For what reasons does Google actually ban accounts?
Google owns Youtube, which bans people for any reason they feel like, including people for whom it had become a full-time job with their channel monetization paying the bills.
It is extremely unwise and very much against the founding spirit of the Internet to allow one company this much control, especially one that has shown itself to be censorious in the past.