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Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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No, you can't just "fork Chromium" if you don't like the way Google is running the project What, why not? Beaker and others did exactly this.

How much success do they have?

You tell me

Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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can you elaborate?

Cliqz is a company that primarily provides a Firefox based browser with privacy-oriented changes. Their slogan is „The no-compromise browser. Cliqz gives you relevant search results and does not leak your private data.” Sounds good on the surface, but what they really mean with „does not leak” is leak to Google. The Cliqz browser sends every keystroke in real-time to some supposedly Cliqz owned AWS instances. I verif…

>Honi soit quit mal y pense

Is that considered well known enough to drop without a translation?

Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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Just so we can avoid rehashing the discussion whenever a post encouraging the use of Firefox is posted. - Yes, Mozilla is still the better browser when it comes to privacy. - Yes, Mozilla has made missteps with Pocket and Mr. Robot. - Yes, it is slow/resource heavy on certain Macs with non-default resolutions. Yes, Mozilla is working on a fix. - Yes, it has become really fast for most users after Quantum improvements…

- Yes, Firefox does support Containers, which are a very innovative privacy feature allowing you to maintain separate browser sessions (cookies, site preferences, ...) towards different websites inside a single browser instance.[1][2] [1] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/containers#w_what-are-c... [2] https://www.thechiefmeat.com/guides/containers.html

Not by default though. You need to install the "Multi-Account Containers" addon if you want to activate it.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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What was the misstep with Pocket? I've been loving it since I discovered it thru Firefox.

It's just some people don't like it's bundled in by default. Seems really as a non-issue, especially since now Mozilla owns the service.

It's still an issue because you can't uninstall it, it's hard to disable completely (and on Mobile the option is buried in various menus and hard to find), and they're removing RSS/Atom feed support which would be fine if it was just to split more things out into addons like they claim, but then they're encouraging that you use Pocket instead. Mozilla encouraging the use of their own proprietary service over an open standard is unacceptable and against their mission, and yet I still have to have Pocket pop up and show me ads every time I reinstall my browser until I can figure out how to stop it from downloading random stories about things.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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post #9

Just so we can avoid rehashing the discussion whenever a post encouraging the use of Firefox is posted. - Yes, Mozilla is still the better browser when it comes to privacy. - Yes, Mozilla has made missteps with Pocket and Mr. Robot. - Yes, it is slow/resource heavy on certain Macs with non-default resolutions. Yes, Mozilla is working on a fix. - Yes, it has become really fast for most users after Quantum improvements…

> No, the argument "Chrome will be the new IE if you don't use Firefox" doesn't matter to most users

But it should and advocates can make it matter to users, just like they did when Phoenix was the cure for the made for IE blues

Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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What are HN's thoughts on ungoogled-chrome? It's still a Chromium browser but without the Google spying.

It's not just spying. It's also unilateral actions like the recent 'trivial subdomains' example:

https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=881410

https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=883038

Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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It was removed because - pretty much nobody was using it; - it's pretty easy to reimplement as an extension. Championing the Free Web is harder if you also need to champion the dead web. edit "nobody" => "pretty much nobody"

Pocket is also easy to implement as an extension. In fact, it is an extension. But they bundled it with the browser.

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Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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How much success do they have?

You tell me

Since you asked, poorly. I've never heard of Beaker and when I run it through Google I have to scroll down to see anything about Beaker the browser. But I'm sure when they show up to WHATWG or W3C the room goes silent.
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