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Re: Leaving htop running freezes macOS High Sierra

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Okay for now htop is disabled for High Sierra: ==> Upgrading 1 outdated packages, with result: htop 2.0.2_1 htop: This formula either does not compile or function as expected on macOS

Not quite: many people already have 2.0.2 (which is buggy) installed. Short of uninstalling htop the issue still remains.

Re: Leaving htop running freezes macOS High Sierra

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I have an old MacBook Pro I use as a gaming machine (and my wife uses as temporary machine after our late dog (for reasons unrelated to her demise) urinated on her new XPS13.

After upgrading to High Sierra, we both got so sick of the instability that we're installing it with Xubuntu this evening, bringing it in line with the rest of our 'home fleet' (ThinkPads w/ either FreeBSD or Xubuntu).

Re: Leaving htop running freezes macOS High Sierra

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From the symptoms, it looks like it’s starving the computer of memory. It doesn’t look like anyone’s debugged this, so once I get back to my computer I’ll take a look and get it reported to Apple.

I can't edit anymore, so I'm going to reply: I did a bit more research on this issue and it's not actually a memory bug at all. In reality there appears to be an infinite loop in calls to task_for_pid: https://github.com/hishamhm/htop/issues/682#issuecomment-355.... I'm still not sure who's doing the wrong thing, htop or Apple, but it's clear that freezing up the system is always incorrect behavior.

Re: Leaving htop running freezes macOS High Sierra

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I'm on macOS High Sierra for the spontaneity. Every morning, I go to wake my Macbook Pro with two 4K USB-C connected displays and external keyboard and mouse. Will one display turn on? Both? Neither? Who knows!

I am always baffled by these reports. I’ve had nothing but success with external monitors on my last three MacBooks. What is your setup out of curiosity? Monitor brand, connection type, cable brand etc. I’m assuming I’m an outlier because I see this in almost every thread that mentions MacBooks and I am real curious how it manifests. Edit: reading further comments it sounds like possibly the monitors use the same edi…

> I am always baffled by these reports.

You shouldn't be. This is an actual GIF from the Ars Technica review of High Sierra: https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Sep-2...

Re: Leaving htop running freezes macOS High Sierra

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An especially unfortunate truth is that many developers have grown so afraid of workflow-breaking bugs that they're willing to risk security flaws just so they can get work done. The things I would do (and pay) for 2010-Apple tier hardware built for CentOS in both laptop and phone form factors...

> The things I would do (and pay) for 2010-Apple tier hardware built for CentOS Isn’t it remarkable this still doesn’t exist? Build quality still does not compare in the PC world. Yet, I’m on a MBA3,2 (late 2010) and it’s great. Still running Yosemite. It’s got 4gb ram but handles running 10 JVMs with modest heaps for development no problem. Stable and runs for months without issue. I’d love more RAM and more cores b…

“Insanely great”

Re: Leaving htop running freezes macOS High Sierra

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If your confidence is that low, why use MacOS at all?

Despite the flaws it still provides a more consistent experience than Linux (especially on laptops). I just wish Apple put as much love into MacOS as they do into iOS. Also there is a lot of proprietary software like the Adobe suite + Music production software that is only available on MacOS or Windows.

You should try KDE Neon stable :)

It's the best linux experience I've had, I got used to call it "macosx, the linux way". It's stable, with a well thought of interface and softwares that just fit together, yet it's customizable to the extreme and will allow you to create your workflow instead of forcing one upon you.

Not that it will help with the unported softwares you're used to use, though (although, inkscape, blender and ardour are a thing, nowadays).

Re: Leaving htop running freezes macOS High Sierra

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High Sierra seems like a great OS if you want an unstable workstation that doesn't work with tools you've used everyday for well over a decade.

You mean having to install a MFT of additional software ala homebrew etc instead of just installing your Linux distribution of choice on a cheaper more powerful system was ever a good choice for a workstation?

Re: Leaving htop running freezes macOS High Sierra

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Apple hardware was nice. Not anymore. I had to have the keyboard replaced on my touchbar model. And the 8 Gig memory limit is silly. Thanks to an external keyboard and vagrant I get to spend most of my time on linux with a good keyboard, so it is tolerable for now. I would dump it for a linux laptop, but I work remote so every type of video chat/screen share tool needs to work. Most of them don't work on linux. My co…

And no native Evernote client :(

That is indeed unfortunate but the windows version runs decently on Wine. It's a pain to figure out the exact versions of Evernote and Wine that will work + the fixes (currently I'm on Evernote 6.4 and Wine 2.1 using PlayOnLinux). In the end some annoying bugs linger, but for the most part I still prefer it to Evernote for Mac.

Re: Leaving htop running freezes macOS High Sierra

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I hit a breaking point with the Apple laptops a couple of years ago. It was actually iTunes that drove me off. iTunes Match somehow corrupted and lost a bunch of my music. Forever gone and I didn't have backups. After working with Support for a while, I finally gave up and bought a new ThinkPad T470s and put Arch Linux on it and never looked back. Things work really well and predictably. I have it dialed in just how…

Was it hard to move off Retina and reasonable touchpad? I am considering similar route, but these are the two things that keep me on Apple.

High DPI displays are common on PC laptops now, they generally work well in Linux (not so much for legacy apps but you're unlikely to use those).

I like the touchpad on my X1 Carbon, but I never used a mac long enough to really adapt my workflow to all the touchpad gestures (I think on Linux you'll be happy with general usage/scrolling/etc, but stuff like pinch to zoom is still not widely supported).

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