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Re: Kids in ‘Netflix Only’ Homes Saved from 230 Hours of Commercials a Year

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Post by intopieces »

1_2__4 wrote: post #128
intopieces wrote: post #104

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>where we sit there watching a box telling us what to buy This is no different from YouTube or Facebook. Except those services follow your personally and make shadow profiles of your preferences and sell them to other companies. Is that really better?

Yes, yes it is. I’m astounded your conflate broadcaster cable TV ads with the stuff we see on, say, YouTube. They seem very different to me

YouTube ads don’t tell you what to buy? Or, they aren’t displayed on something box shaped?

If you mean the ads are better quality, then that’s even worse. Better ads mean you’re being told what to buy... more effectively.

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Post by nuclearchicken »

scarface74 wrote: post #136
nuclearchicken wrote: post #67

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What ads? I block everything for my family. While I do have cable for certain things, my wife and I DVR everything and FF through the ads. I find advertising distasteful and I don't suffer through it. I will likely go straight Internet in 2018. I can get straight unlimited 1GB connection Internet for $99 month. I pay another $45 for the cable. It's difficult to get BBC and BBC America without cable or satellite, and…

BBC America is part of Sling's core package - $20 a month. It's also on Direct TV Now and Playststion Vue.

Good to know; thank you.

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Post by smichel17 »

gman83 wrote: post #23

I was thinking about this the other day, and I was wondering whether the fact that my kids are not exposed at all to commercials might make them more susceptible to advertising when they grow up.

Anecdata: When I, on occasion, use the internet someone else's computer, who does not have an ad blocker, I'm horrified. "THIS is the internet they live with?!" They typically seem not to notice the ads, or accept them as the status quo.

So, my hypothesis is that exposure to ads does not have any benefits. I would not extend this hypothesis to product placement, however.

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Post by guitarsteve »

scarface74 wrote: post #129

Cue the "I don't even own a TV crowd".... 97% of American Households own a television. https://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/03/business/media/03televisi... Then right behind them the "I don't subscribe to cable crowd and I don't understand why people do" 75% of households still have cable or satellite. http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/24/a-stunning-number-of-ameri... And I'm one of the 25% that don't subscribe to cable but…

I'm not sure if it's significant to the statistics, but Comcast has always given me an internet+cable package for cheaper than the internet by itself. So for my household, the cable box is just a big electronic coupon.

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Post by nuclearchicken »

niftich wrote: post #123
nuclearchicken wrote: post #76

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Product placement is difficult in the shows I watch most: The Walking Dead, Fear the Walking Dead, Vikings. Luxury items don't and didn't exist in the aforementioned shows. I watch TV sitting with a laptop. I mute during the commercials and look at whatever for 2-3 minutes and return to watching. Done this for decades. I will likely go straight Internet connection in 2018 once I figure out how to get BBC and BBC Amer…

The Walking Dead had a longtime product placement deal with Hyundai. Although it was much ridiculed, much of the point of product placement is to cause positive associations to be made between the product and the setting. Many people may not have thought of a Hyundai as a rough-and-tumble kind of car, but seeing it in such a setting normalizes that association ever so subtly, not unlike why repetition is an effective…

Good point. My brother, a veteran, will not own a Kia because of the Killed in Action acronym. I cannot blame him.

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Post by 8ytecoder »

niftich wrote: post #138
pesfandiar wrote: post #126

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I wonder why Netflix doesn't add a "random content" button. That's one of the appeals of TV versus Netflix that could be replicated very easily. Something more akin to changing channels like "random cartoon" or "random comedy" would remove one last obstacle in the way of converting cable subscribers.

The 'random' button would interfere with their aggregate viewership tracking and recommendation algorithms. When the viewer appears to select a particular show to watch, you can have reasonable faith in the viewership numbers. If the platform were to offer a random choice, the fact that the resulting view was not organic would need to be tracked separately. Conversely, you'd want a better way of figuring out whether…

They should seriously consider "channels" whereby something random is always playing by genre.

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Post by [deleted] »

viraptor wrote: post #58
Spooky23 wrote: post #13

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I think the “Frosty the Snowman” special on live TV ran almost 90 minutes... the commercials were agonizing. Also, kids are consuming a lot of highly effective YouTube ads.

Getting rid of adverts on yt for all family is $10/mo, which I'm thinking is not that crazy. It's also a part of Google music family subscription for $15/mo - you get YouTube Red included.

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Post by scarface74 »

JohnTHaller wrote: post #144
scarface74 wrote: post #129

Cue the "I don't even own a TV crowd".... 97% of American Households own a television. https://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/03/business/media/03televisi... Then right behind them the "I don't subscribe to cable crowd and I don't understand why people do" 75% of households still have cable or satellite. http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/24/a-stunning-number-of-ameri... And I'm one of the 25% that don't subscribe to cable but…

I own a television but it's never used as a 'television'. It's a screen with an Xbox connected on which I have Netflix, YouTube, Hulu, and games.

So instead of watching content provided by the major networks over Coax delivered to you by one of the major ISPs, you watch content over TCP/IP brought to you by one of the major ISPs owned by the same content providers. Hulu is 30% own by Fox, Disney, and Comcast and the other 10% is owned by Time Warner.

You're still watching content on your television, over a wire, brought to you by the major content providers. What's the difference again?

I also subscribe to Netflix, commercial free Hulu, and commercial free CBS. But how I get my content isn't in a practical sense any different than a cable subscriber except for a lack of ads and I don't have to pay all of the extra fees.

I'm also not bothered about admitting I have 6 TVs throughout my house all with Rokus.

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Post by scarface74 »

guitarsteve wrote: post #164
scarface74 wrote: post #129

Cue the "I don't even own a TV crowd".... 97% of American Households own a television. https://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/03/business/media/03televisi... Then right behind them the "I don't subscribe to cable crowd and I don't understand why people do" 75% of households still have cable or satellite. http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/24/a-stunning-number-of-ameri... And I'm one of the 25% that don't subscribe to cable but…

I'm not sure if it's significant to the statistics, but Comcast has always given me an internet+cable package for cheaper than the internet by itself. So for my household, the cable box is just a big electronic coupon.

Comcast cable wasn't cheaper for me once I took into account all of the extra fees involved.
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