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Something is wrong when the ‘telephone app’ on your phone becomes 3rd party

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Post by zild3d »

WorldMaker wrote: post #47
nkrisc wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't carry a phone in my pocket, I carry a personal computer that also makes voices calls over cellular networks.

I've been joking lately that there is a new one syllable word for "personal computer": phone. At the current rate that's how the language will shift. I suppose we'll know if people start referring to things like "macOS deskphones" and think "laptop" always meant "laptop phone". :) It's like those futurist ads from the 50s (and 80s/90s) AT&T that soon there will be phones capable of amazing things everywhere in our li…

Bell Lab's legacy lives on in a lot more than just linux...

the transistor and information theory are both the foundation for these phones we're talking about

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Post by davidf18 »

nkrisc wrote: post #12
sailingparrot wrote: post #3

Or that just means that we still call the device in our pocket a "phone" for legacy reasons. If we are okay with having a third party handles our messages, VoIP etc, why not the phone app?

I don't carry a phone in my pocket, I carry a personal computer that also makes voices calls over cellular networks.

Its a computer with a photon transceiver.

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Post by jumpkickhit »

Funny, I'm reminded of my HP Ipaq back in 2005 or so. 800mhz smartphone with a stylus, wifi, running Windows CE.

It struck me as a portable computer, with "cellphone" functionality added as an almost afterthought.

Guess that's still the case if you think about it.

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Post by codewiz »

Double check which software you get with which device. Not being an apple fanboy, I have to admit: At least you know what you get when buying an Iphone.

I don't understand why some people compare a $650 iPhone 7 with cheap phones loaded with some half-assed vendor fork of Android?

If you wanted stock Android, you should have bought a $650 Pixel phone.

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Post by ghaff »

tomjen3 wrote: post #119
nkrisc wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ever seen a two year old use a tablet? Don't be shocked if in ten to twelve years we have teenagers who can only use a touch interface and can't type or hate using a mouse.

I was about to comment, it is very annoying to write on a tablet for any kind of school length work. I would hate to write an essay on a tablet. Then I realized I have installed Dragon on this computer, and there wasn't even a reason for me to type this reply. So I will risk a guess and assume that in the future essays will be spoken, not written. No doubt there will be an epic fight over this, as people try to defen…

You're assuming writing is a highly linear process, which has pretty much never been the case. When dictating memos was a thing, even that took practice. Anything more complex has always involved huge amounts of cutting and pasting--whether literally or digitally.

Given good enough voice recognition and good enough touch interfaces that work in concert (and ignoring the many situations where speaking is an issue), it's possible. But it's not an easy path.

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Post by gmac »

dTal wrote: post #152
krrrh wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mobile phones are called "Handys" in German. It's become such a satisfying and appropriate name for handheld computers, as distinct from traditional personal computers. In British English, they've always called cellphones "mobiles", which is also a nice short name for mobile computers.

I think this usage is dying out in British English in much the same way as the word "auto" for car. People still speak of "mobile networks" and "auto dealerships", but they buy "phones" and "cars".

Maybe this is a regional thing, but I'm British and I'm not sure I've ever heard a first language British English speaker use the word "auto" for a car. I'd have said that was purely an Americanism.

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Post by 13of40 »

nkrisc wrote: post #12
sailingparrot wrote: post #3

Or that just means that we still call the device in our pocket a "phone" for legacy reasons. If we are okay with having a third party handles our messages, VoIP etc, why not the phone app?

I don't carry a phone in my pocket, I carry a personal computer that also makes voices calls over cellular networks.

For me, the feature that keeps it in my pocket every day, versus being able to ditch it when I feel like being in the real world, is the phone part. If it was just a PDA I'd leave it at home most of the time.

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Post by viraptor »

stuaxo wrote: post #160
krrrh wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mobile phones are called "Handys" in German. It's become such a satisfying and appropriate name for handheld computers, as distinct from traditional personal computers. In British English, they've always called cellphones "mobiles", which is also a nice short name for mobile computers.

Mobile is short for mobile phone. I think most people are most likely to say "bring your phone", rather than "bring your mobile".

Depends on a country. Mobile is popular as well.
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