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Re: Trump2cash – A stock trading bot powered by Trump tweets

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Post by bmelton » Mon, Feb 13, 2017, 12:56 PM UTC

kohanz wrote: post #118

bmelton wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but it boils down to: do you think these events are a bad thing? And I guess what I failed to express that it doesn't have to be a binary 'good' or 'bad'. I personally don't judge inclusivity or exclusivity as either good or bad, nor do I see why anyone should, beyond determining what it means to them. If Boy Scouts of America want to exclude certain demographics, fine -- it's their club after all, but I don't want…

That's totally fair. Thanks for explaining. I'm on the opposite side of that, but I can see where you're coming from. I could see my daughter or some other young girl benefitting from this type of instruction so I wouldn't hesitate to volunteer with them again. I also see no shortage of opportunities for my son to learn about coding, so I don't think it's a detriment to him. I'd much rather send them to the same plac…

> I can understand why a girl would rather have a different environment to start out in.

So can I, which is why I make no value judgements on those people who prefer exclusiveness to inclusiveness. That said, I'd much prefer to teach my (also not hypothetical daughter) the value of inclusivity, and as such, where it makes sense, I prefer to eschew those groups who practice exclusivity.

Re: Trump2cash – A stock trading bot powered by Trump tweets

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Post by dlgeek » Tue, Feb 14, 2017, 2:41 AM UTC

drak0n1c wrote: post #128

alex- wrote: post #122

As the poster doesn't this gives Trump the power to manipulate markets with nothing more than a tweet? You could argue he already has this power, but before the message needed to resonate with a large collective of people. Any public figure (like Warren Buffet, etc) can express an opinion that might effect the stock they are commenting on. However as this group of people automate trades on only the contents of his tw…

Politicians impacting the stock market is nothing new. Pipeline and coal companies plummeted with Obama's executive orders, and the executive branch DOJ created a huge drop in prison stocks with what was effectively an indirect tweet. Solar stocks zig zagged according to the latest Solyndra and renewables subsidy activity. The only thing new is Twitter as a more easily machine-readable mouthpiece. Congress actually g…

I think what's novel/different here is the examples you all cited are examples of market reaction to government action, compared to, let's call it "executive sentiment". The distinction here is people are anticipating future actions based a politician expressing feelings rather than taking action.

Re: Trump2cash – A stock trading bot powered by Trump tweets

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Post by EdHominem » Tue, Feb 14, 2017, 5:38 PM UTC

kohanz wrote: post #158

hueving wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>That is completely you bringing your prejudices into the equation Says the person advocating for special women's-only classes, implying they are not capable of participating in mixed gender environments. >that's not a bad thing IMHO and there is no harm done. Except to the kids that were refused from entering the class due to their gender. They were deprived of whatever the teacher and their would-be peers had to of…

I don't know where you live, but in my area for each female-specific coding event there are 10s or 100s without restriction that are male dominated. Again, this is like claiming that the existence of women's only gyms infringes on your ability to find a place to work out.

> Do gyms have womens-only sections because women are not as good as men at going to the gym?!

"Infringes on your ability" never was the question.

There always were many clubs open to women - only a few here and there were men-only. In fact, by the time we got rid of men's only clubs they were rarely very influential so you can't even really argue that they were special. But, obviously I think, we aren't getting rid of men's only clubs simply to give women the choice of 50 clubs instead of 45, but because we feel it's unfair for people to be excluded.

> Learning to code is not a competitive sport.

Right, so setup an event that is not and it'll be appropriate for all learners, of either gender. This is the sort I prefer to attend, fwiw.

But if you make it competitive (offering prizes, recognition, or mentors for instance) don't be surprised if people treat it that way.

> Any presumptions of ability being brought into the discussion is being injected by your own viewpoints.

Why are there paralympics, if not to give the paralympians a chance against the uninjured?

> I think it's a really ugly comparison, to be honest.

How it makes you feel is seldom related to the truth.

Also, not that your comfort would matter either way, I think you're hearing me say that there's an actual skill difference, which I am not, and I do not see one amongst my work peers. I'm talking about the message inherent in segregated events.

> It's all-girl to encourage female participation and has absolutely nothing to do with ability.

How does making an event "no males" encouraging? That says a lot of things, but "You're just as good" is not one of them. How about just making the event about things that the girls in question care about?

And, even if it had only positive connotations, why is it fine to have all-girls events but not all-boys events?