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Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

antris wrote: post #65
runevault wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If this does even half as well as I expect, they would be insane not to do an SNES one. N64 and Gamecube are more interesting as, while both platforms had some good games, 1) the controllers were absurd, and 2) they don't have the same nostalgia feel with a wider audience that the first 2 Nintendo consoles do. What gets interesting is what games do they put on the SNES? I would dearly love to see stuff like FF 3/6 an…

> they don't have the same nostalgia feel with a wider audience that the first 2 Nintendo consoles do. Oh, yes they do . Sincerely, Born in the late 80's

I'm older but N64 and GC are my first consoles because my parents could never afford a console for us (we had pong though!) so N64 was my first when I was working.

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Post by sambobeckingham »

satysin wrote: post #79
sdegutis wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fwiw, if you buy a Wii for $50 at GameStop, you can connect to the internet over wifi and buy many NES, SNES, GameCube, and N64 games for it and play them natively on the Wii. Here are some games we downloaded for our kids and all play together: Super Metroid Super Mario 1 Super Mario 2 Super Mario 3 Super Mario RPG Super Mario World Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Sonic 3 Kirby's…

Yeah I have a handful for my favourite SNES games from the Wii Virtual Console. But my Wii has long been retired to a storage cupboard. Plus I would like a proper SNES controller for that authentic feel :) I keep thinking about doing a RetroPi and get a USB SNES controller but it isn't a priority for me really. Would be nice to be able to support Nintendo with a £50 SNES Classic next year though!

You can get a SNES to USB adapter on Amazon/eBay for not much, plug and play pretty much, just need to map it to your emulator.

You can't beat the feel of a genuine, 20 year old controller!

They also make them for pretty much every controller you could want - Even Wiiport to USB which means you could plug these NES Classic controllers into the PC to use with emulators directly.

I wish these all worked with Steam Link though :(

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Post by ubercore »

nickysielicki wrote: post #71

So Nintendo is presumably just packaging some kind of modified FOSS emulator with their games? https://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp#emergence I'd love to see someone rip the firmware out of this thing and see what FLIRT can see. It would be pretty ironic if they sold the same emulators that they've been against for years.

I'd presume they use the virtual console codebase, not a FOSS emulator.

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Post by muterad_murilax »

toast0 wrote: post #142
drawkbox wrote: post #35

Insta-buy, just wish the cords for the controllers were a bit longer but I guess they kept it real. Only real bummer is no Contra (they have the sequel), Metal Gear, Cobra Triangle or Blaster Master, maybe next batch.

> Only real bummer is no Contra (they have the sequel) I wish they would have put Contra instead of Super C, and Life Force (simultaneous two-player) instead of Gradius :(

Or even better, Probotector and Probotector II: Return of the Evil Forces (the European and Australian versions of Contra and Super C that replaced the main dude-bros with robotic soldiers)! :)

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Post by anonbanker »

alanfalcon wrote: post #80
huangc10 wrote: post #61

As much as I want to support Nintendo, I have to admit I've been playing NES and SNES with roms on the computer since early 2000s. My parents wouldn't buy me any game consoles or handheld devices so the computer was the only way to go. RetroPie and other hw apps would be fun to set up, but it's just so easy with emulator and roms that anyone can do it within a few mins. If you want the nostalgia, just download the em…

Some people have more respect for intellectual property rights than others.

Some of us that don't have respect for intellectual property rights certainly understand the concept of "plausible deniability", and how it applies to an ARM system running an emulator for 30 NES roms. :)

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Post by atom-morgan »

disease wrote: post #150
rconti wrote: post #145

$60. $60! I remember spending $65.99 of my allowance for Super Mario 3. Don't let anyone tell you that games are expensive these days.

I distinctly remember that getting 'Strider' for Sega Genesis as a birthday present had to count as the entire gift from my parents because of its $80 price tag. And that's in 1990 dollars! I'd argue that today's games are both less expensive and contain a wider array of content. Just look at all the stuff you get with something like GTA 5.

Wow. I thought the increase from $50-60 a few years ago was crazy. I had no idea prices back then were higher.

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Post by Orangeair »

> The controller ports aren’t as satisfyingly analog-feeling as the old ones, but that’s really not a big deal.

It's slightly ironic that the author says this, since there is absolutely nothing analog about NES controllers -- they're nothing more than a shift register internally. By contrast, modern controllers do in fact have analog input mechanisms (although they are of course communicated with digitally).

It seems to me that "analog" and "digital" have lost their true meanings over time, and come to mean nothing more than "old technology" and "new technology" over time.

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Post by verisimilidude »

cableshaft wrote: post #47
runevault wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If this does even half as well as I expect, they would be insane not to do an SNES one. N64 and Gamecube are more interesting as, while both platforms had some good games, 1) the controllers were absurd, and 2) they don't have the same nostalgia feel with a wider audience that the first 2 Nintendo consoles do. What gets interesting is what games do they put on the SNES? I would dearly love to see stuff like FF 3/6 an…

> What gets interesting is what games do they put on the SNES? ...building a list of 30 such games would take hours to trim down. Took me ten minutes. Although if I knew it weren't super unlikely, I would sneak Uniracers and EVO: Search for Eden onto this list. Also, yes I know there are a ton more great games for SNES. It was an awesome system. But these seem like good candidates. * Chrono Trigger * Donkey Kong Coun…

The problem with this list is that it's too complete. It's got most of the classics covered. For Nintendo, I imagine that's a problem for this kind of product because (1) it gives them less room to create follow-up bundles and (2) it gives players nothing new to discover, just a bunch of stuff they've already played. Therefore, I think your gut is correct regarding games like Uniracers and EVO. I would add a few other obscure titles to the mix too, like Kirby's Dream Course or Rock 'N Roll Racing.

Otherwise, the list really needs another sports game. Choosing the right title is tough since so many sports games are relics of their time. But a few hold up well to this day. Ken Griffey Jr. Presents MLB (the original, not the sequel, Winning Run) and NHL 94 are good candidates.

Re: Review: The NES Classic Edition and all 30 games on it

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Post by nnutter »

Orangeair wrote: post #168

> The controller ports aren’t as satisfyingly analog-feeling as the old ones, but that’s really not a big deal. It's slightly ironic that the author says this, since there is absolutely nothing analog about NES controllers -- they're nothing more than a shift register internally. By contrast, modern controllers do in fact have analog input mechanisms (although they are of course communicated with digitally). It seems…

To me "analog" vs. "digital" was analogous to "continuous" vs. "discrete". I would never have called an NES controller "analog".
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