Google collects metadata from Android phones

Post by lostlogin » Fri, Jul 01, 2016, 7:12 PM UTC

toyg wrote: post #44

supernovae wrote: post #27

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Maybe not surprised, but they begrudge everyone else for this more than they do google, and that's what I think sucks. It seems OK for Apple/Google to do whatever they need to do to have a competitive app store with all its analytics and understanding its customer to sell it advertising but if other companies do it, its all the sudden the sky is falling

It's probably because Google is perceived as giving you something like search, email, maps etc, which is very valuable, and "in exchange" it does stuff that does not directly impact your life. Similarly with Apple, which also works as a status symbol. The sequence is also important: first they build services and products, sell (or give away) them on their merits, and then turn the analytics to 11. Doing both at the s…

Post by knorker » Fri, Jul 01, 2016, 7:22 PM UTC

magicalist wrote: post #104

gcb0 wrote: post #99

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gotta love the double standard. when verizon did their super cokie, everyone went crazy (as they should). now that its google (doing that since before verizon it seems) the top coment is a googler throwing the issue to the side in a hitchhikers-guide-to-galaxy way ("you should have checked the alpha centaury records in 2012")

> when verizon did their super cokie, everyone went crazy (as they should). now that its google... to be fair, one was a thing that happened, the other is a "by my reading of the ToS, they could do this"

Post by tunap » Fri, Jul 01, 2016, 7:28 PM UTC

yoshamano wrote: post #116

edwintorok wrote: post #98

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Post by lostlogin » Fri, Jul 01, 2016, 7:31 PM UTC

tunap wrote: post #106

artimaeis wrote: post #85

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You and I are reading that a different way. I see it as they're going to be able to collect this data for the first time since they've found a way to do so without compromising privacy. Their privacy page seems to agree with my interpretation: https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/ Though since iOS is closed source - we can't know for certain.

Cannot find specifics now(my N900 doesn't render many pages anymore), but it was widely known prior to 2010 that snApple slurps data every 45 min, or 16 x's a day. When I read that I thought it was an interesting coincidence that the ISS circles the Earth at the same rate. Possible discussion from 2011, cannot open the page: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3200399?start=0&tstart=...

Post by retox » Fri, Jul 01, 2016, 7:41 PM UTC

spriggan3 wrote: post #124

whamlastxmas wrote: post #28

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I make the same assumption and the chilling effect is frustrating. I assume everything I type on the internet is able to be tied back to me if anyone at the NSA etc wanted to look at me specifically. Unless you always use a VPN (or Tor) for all of your accounts and go through the unreasonable efforts of preventing browser fingerprinting, chances are this is true for everyone. And even those efforts are thwarted if th…

It's dead if you use all these "free" services, "free" mobile os and services and "free" apps like Chrome browser, provided by Google,Facebook and co. By using these "freebies" you are willingly giving up data. People are effectively paying with their privacy, it is made completely clear. That's the model the "free" internet chose to go with. People don't seem to care about their privacy or don't understand the conse…