What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York • Hacker News Board

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by chrismcb » Mon, May 04, 2015, 9:29 AM UTC

mapt wrote: post #16

icelancer wrote: post #12

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What? They are allowed to express their right to free speech and expression as well, just as the protestors should be able to.

There are limits. You probably wouldn't object to a police officer being fired when it's discovered they have 5,000 posts on Stormfront expressing solidarity for their Aryan brothers in their struggle against multicultural impurity. These police officers expressed contempt in an organized, planned way for anyone who would hold police officers accountable for murders committed on the job. They essentially declared tha…

I most certainly would object to firing a police officer who had a ton if posts. As long as it didn't interfere with his duty as a police officer.

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by herbig » Mon, May 04, 2015, 2:26 PM UTC

mschuster91 wrote: post #45

> This was super distressing for a lot of people, as those belongings usually included wallet, phone, and keys. So after you are done at Central Booking, you are basically left with no possessions or money, and no way to get into your home or contact anyone. Please, someone tell me this is fucking illegal.

This happened to me as well when I was arrested for running a red light on my bike.

I had to walk from downtown Brooklyn back to the precinct that had my stuff because I didn't have any money or keys into my apartment.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7233730

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by lloyd-christmas » Mon, May 04, 2015, 4:40 PM UTC

GhotiFish wrote: post #101

lloyd-christmas wrote: post #99

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I respect that things need to be done, but I couldn't breath through the stench of an agenda/propaganda while reading half the article.

Could you tell me what the agenda was? I didn't catch it... Other than making the NYPD look bad of course. That I got.

"...and the metal bench was designed to be cold and uncomfortable."

Yep. I'm sure they went out of their way just to make her uncomfortable. From reading the article, I picked up on a person that steps outside just hoping to be offended.

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by Flimm » Mon, May 04, 2015, 6:43 PM UTC

PhasmaFelis wrote: post #146

waqf wrote: post #107

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Why are you so sure that the 15-year-old Tumblrinas are not the true Scotsmen? I mean, it's clear that you're defending a more reasonable version of the claim and GP is attacking a more unreasonable one, but it's not clear to me which of those is going to win out as the common understanding associated with the expression "privilege theory".

I think that the "common understanding" of pretty much any political idea, no matter where it lies on the spectrum, is going to be mostly composed of soundbites and tweets and memes, because those are the easiest to ingest and repost. It's easy to get a strawman idea from that, but to get to to the heart of an idea you need to read the TL;DR stuff too. If you're afraid that the superficially furious people are going…

I love it when a conversation moves beyond the typical argument and counter-argument. Thank you!

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by PhasmaFelis » Tue, May 05, 2015, 3:31 AM UTC

Flimm wrote: post #154

PhasmaFelis wrote: post #146

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I think that the "common understanding" of pretty much any political idea, no matter where it lies on the spectrum, is going to be mostly composed of soundbites and tweets and memes, because those are the easiest to ingest and repost. It's easy to get a strawman idea from that, but to get to to the heart of an idea you need to read the TL;DR stuff too. If you're afraid that the superficially furious people are going…

I love it when a conversation moves beyond the typical argument and counter-argument. Thank you!

You're welcome! I've been making a conscious effort to be less of a curmudgeon online these days. I got tired of being angry all the time.

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by GhotiFish » Tue, May 05, 2015, 2:36 PM UTC

lloyd-christmas wrote: post #153

GhotiFish wrote: post #101

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Could you tell me what the agenda was? I didn't catch it... Other than making the NYPD look bad of course. That I got.

"...and the metal bench was designed to be cold and uncomfortable." Yep. I'm sure they went out of their way just to make her uncomfortable. From reading the article, I picked up on a person that steps outside just hoping to be offended.

Ah, you're saying that her objective from the start is to make the NYPD look bad, so she's ham handedly complaining about things that are innocuous.

That's fair, I got the sense from your first post that the article had some kind of mystery undercurrent of anti-abortion sentiment or something.

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by zachwooddoughty » Tue, May 05, 2015, 4:53 PM UTC

tomjen3 wrote: post #126

task_queue wrote: post #124

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Tell me more about how I'm the real racist for pointing out that the system is intractably racist. If this makes you uncomfortable, you need to come to terms with history and the present reality. We (white people) have been at the reigns and designed the legal system from the start to give us an advantage. I'd say we have to hold some accountability for maintaining a system we knew was broken for too long. I'd also g…

>We (white people) have been at the reigns That is the racists part. Some people are in power, they are white but that doesn't mean you get to slam white people anymore than you get to slam all black people for being criminals. Downvoting me won't make the former any less racists than the last.

>Some people are in power, they are white

This is the root of racial inequality in our justice system. No one is claiming that all white people are evil supervillians. But many white people don't comprehend the harsher reality people of color face when being arrested.

The comment "I love when white people are shocked" is a reference to the fact that "some people are in power, they are white". If the people in power are shocked by what it's like to be arrested, perhaps it will spark positive change in the system.