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Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by tgbrter »

spiritplumber wrote: post #113
joshstrange wrote: post #8

I honestly didn't think you could be arrested for protesting like this without at least a warning and even then if only if it turned violent...

You can be arrested for pretty much no reason. You can be "briefly" (up to a day, and in some places up to the whole weekend if you are processed on Friday night) detained for pretty much any reason other than no reason. One time, I was detained for three hours on suspicion of DUI because I was on my front porch with my car keys in my pocket... and not a drop of alcohol or drugs in my system, execept I was woozy from…

You can bill them? Surely you have to inform them beforehand that any further conversation about IT will be considered as a paid consultation, i.e. make a verbal agreement.

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by mckoss »

Johnie wrote: post #39
joshstrange wrote: post #8

I honestly didn't think you could be arrested for protesting like this without at least a warning and even then if only if it turned violent...

From what I've read, there had been plenty of warnings all day. >The group was on East 17th Street about halfway down the block when police took a stand and ordered protesters to get on the sidewalk. Before the march, while the group was in Union Square, police handed out flyers and used loudspeakers to warn protesters that they would be arrested if they didn't stay on the sidewalk. http://7online.com/news/more-than-…

The right to peaceable assembly in the First Amendment of the Constitution SHOULD mean that the government cannot require a permit to do so (otherwise, it wouldn't be a RIGHT).

If a large number of people want to get from point A to point B, even on foot, an accommodation of normal traffic laws should be made to allow that.

Why the hell are police arresting peaceful protestors?

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by task_queue »

tomjen3 wrote: post #117
task_queue wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is standard fare for any police department ever. It took me about 4 months to get my phone back from the NYPD, which was fun. I love it when white people are shocked by their first arrest, because it (unfortunately) means something might get done. The system sucks. Now please scare other white people about it.

Hn has no place for racists. Go somewhere else if you want to blame any racial group.

Tell me more about how I'm the real racist for pointing out that the system is intractably racist.

If this makes you uncomfortable, you need to come to terms with history and the present reality.

We (white people) have been at the reigns and designed the legal system from the start to give us an advantage. I'd say we have to hold some accountability for maintaining a system we knew was broken for too long.

I'd also go as far as to say those with power (in America, well-endowed white people), who have worked hard to change the the legal system such that they get a Fast Pass through it, have a responsibility to fix that system.

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by danieltillett »

spiritplumber wrote: post #112
mc32 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have strong unions. That allows them lots of things regular workers don't get. Unionized workers get these kinds of benefits --not that I agree with unions, as I think they are past their expiration date, but the strong ones provide great extra-work related benefits. Similarly longshores get pretty sweet benefits too.

Dock work is pretty backbreaking - I'm in favor of people who do that year round, rather than four weeks to make some extra cash for the summer one time like I did, getting good pensions and good health care. You only have one spine and it's gotta last you a lifetime.

It was 50 years ago - now it involves a lot of cranes and comfortable seats.

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by tomjen3 »

task_queue wrote: post #124
tomjen3 wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hn has no place for racists. Go somewhere else if you want to blame any racial group.

Tell me more about how I'm the real racist for pointing out that the system is intractably racist. If this makes you uncomfortable, you need to come to terms with history and the present reality. We (white people) have been at the reigns and designed the legal system from the start to give us an advantage. I'd say we have to hold some accountability for maintaining a system we knew was broken for too long. I'd also g…

>We (white people) have been at the reigns

That is the racists part. Some people are in power, they are white but that doesn't mean you get to slam white people anymore than you get to slam all black people for being criminals. Downvoting me won't make the former any less racists than the last.

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by nailer »

rayiner wrote: post #43
kw71 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When they expressed insubordination by turning their backs on the Mayor, that signalled to me that they have no respect for authority. This is exactly the kind of people that do not belong on a police force. I can't imagine why they weren't all fired. They certainly don't deserve any of the respect that they get, nor their pensions.

Every single one of those officers should have been fired on the spot. I'm no fan of de Blasio, but he's the democratically elected mayor of New York. Turning your back to him is turning your back to the people who elected him.

Keep in mind the police response was to the mayor coming against a ruling from the legal system, which the police are a part of.

The police should respect the mayor, but it's more important that they - and the major - respect the law.

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by spiritplumber »

tgbrter wrote: post #121
spiritplumber wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can be arrested for pretty much no reason. You can be "briefly" (up to a day, and in some places up to the whole weekend if you are processed on Friday night) detained for pretty much any reason other than no reason. One time, I was detained for three hours on suspicion of DUI because I was on my front porch with my car keys in my pocket... and not a drop of alcohol or drugs in my system, execept I was woozy from…

You can bill them? Surely you have to inform them beforehand that any further conversation about IT will be considered as a paid consultation, i.e. make a verbal agreement.

I did, the guy probably thought I was kidding :)

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by spiritplumber »

danieltillett wrote: post #125
spiritplumber wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dock work is pretty backbreaking - I'm in favor of people who do that year round, rather than four weeks to make some extra cash for the summer one time like I did, getting good pensions and good health care. You only have one spine and it's gotta last you a lifetime.

It was 50 years ago - now it involves a lot of cranes and comfortable seats.

It involves a couple of cranes and a lot of moving stuff that's too light to justify bringing the crane over but still seriously heavy, at least where I was (Italy).

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by slapresta »

mgraczyk wrote: post #79
task_queue wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is standard fare for any police department ever. It took me about 4 months to get my phone back from the NYPD, which was fun. I love it when white people are shocked by their first arrest, because it (unfortunately) means something might get done. The system sucks. Now please scare other white people about it.

"I love it when white people ..." It's unclear to me why race has anything to do with this. Are you implying that you expect non-white people to handle "their first arrest" more casually, as if it is something they are familiar with and know will happen? If we really want things to improve, we need to stop complaining about how "white people don't see how bad it is for the rest of us." Focus on what we have in common…

> It's unclear to me why race has anything to do with this.

Because you're white.

> If we really want things to improve, we need to stop complaining about how "white people don't see how bad it is for the rest of us."

Oh god, I'm so glad the white savior told me how to Fix All The Things. So fucking glad.

If we want things to improve, you need to get out of your posh white i-dont-see-color bubble and into the real world. People are dying, enabled by your "It's unclear to me why race has anything to do with this" and "The system is shitty for everybody" and your misplaced white pride.

Partitioning readers by race is not meant to keep white people out. It's meant to keep people like you out.

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