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If money doesn't make you happy, you probably aren't spending it right (2010) [pdf]

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Re: If money doesn't make you happy, you probably aren't spending it right (2010) [pdf]

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I didn't dismiss it. My point is that theorizing over whether money leads to happiness doesn't take into account the absence of money acting as an obstacle to happiness. The heuristic is psychologically leading in that it does not make the distinction of what happiness is. Happiness can be relatively defined from personal experience. In order to analyze this any further, I'd have to examine the studies to see how the…

There is plenty of research demonstrating adding money to low income people does increase happiness, but adding money to high income earners does not. So, the question is why does adding money to high income earners not increase happiness. It's generally assumed that high income earners are not spending their disposable income 'optimally'. PS: Sure, perhaps their not measuring 'happiness' and if it makes you feel bet…

Thank you, you have made me very fruitkerfluffle with your well-phrased response.

Re: If money doesn't make you happy, you probably aren't spending it right (2010) [pdf]

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While I can see how principles 7 and 8 could help most people, they wouldn't work for me. Every purchase of an item I intended to use long term (2 years or more) was preceded by anywhere from days to weeks of research, reviews, and comparison shopping. It's a huge brain drain, but it was worth it. I now have 98% of all possessions I'd want, with the remaining 2% having not reached the right opportunity yet (I'm also…

Because you seem content with this path, may I ask how old you are, or at least how long you've been on this path? I'm also curious to hear examples of the 2% you mention. I'm young but I try to have this same approach of taking the time to buy nice things which will last (furniture, kitchenware, camping gear), and tend to be a bit obsessive about ratings + reviews. I sometimes wonder if this is the "right" approach…

I'm 39 now, but I started this path late. Most of my life was spent going from country to country, with all of my possessions able to fit in two bags. I was also reduced to the shirt on my back a couple of times in business ventures gone wrong. What I've discovered is that there aren't actually that many things to get. A bed, a dresser, a kitchen table and chairs, a couch, a coffee table, a TV, stand, amp and some speakers, living room chairs, a desk + chair, a bookshelf. After that it's outfitting the kitchen and bathroom, clothing, and some art for the walls. That covers the necessities. Beyond that it's just supporting your hobbies & things you do for fun. The other 2% are things like a car (I just use Zipcar for now), some of the more high tech gizmos for the kitchen, more camping gear, good pots & pans once I get better at cooking - Stuff I can live without, so I'm content to wait for a really great deal before buying. The best part is finding something you know you'll need eventually (because it's on your list), but it's available now at a deep discount because some shopkeeper is desperate to be rid of it.

That's actually the key: having the ability to be patient. For about a year, I kept a list of everything I wanted to buy, including links to what were the best in each area. Then I'd keep an eye out for sales, check out garage sales & flea markets, go to second hand stores, surplus stores, etc. I tried to not buy unless I could get it for 70-80% off the new price or better, while still of acceptable quality. For brand new stuff over $50, I'd usually only buy at 40% off or better. To completely furnish my place with stuff I'll never replace, I spent about $2000 over the course of a year. Some stuff was free. Some stuff was damn near free (my solid oak desk was $20) Some stuff I ended up paying a fair price for, because I would accept no substitute. My biggest purchase was a 50" TV for $500, which I'll keep for the next 10 years or so unless it actually breaks. My older, 8 year old 32" TV I now use as an external monitor. It still works like the day I bought it, but then again I also researched the shit out of it before buying (Sharp Aquos, on sale 40% off).

The best part about buy-it-for-life stuff is that a used item is just as good as a new.

The research is slow and tedious. The key is to not be in a hurry. There is a finite amount of stuff to get, and you can probably survive without it for awhile.

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