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Re: New Entry Level 21.5-inch iMac

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Post by nicholassmith »

WorldWideWayne wrote: post #57
nicholassmith wrote: post #54

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This is one of the reasons why ponying up the extra money for a Mac system is a good deal, you get a box, you open the box, you press the on button and you're ready to go.

This is also a good reason to not use a Mac at all and instead use an OS that does not lock you into a single line of hardware.

In my experience with other OS' (Windows 3.1 -> Windows 8, Ubuntu 4 -> Ubuntu 13, half a dozen other Linux varieties), I've never been able to open the box and get to work within half an hour. There's always been some niggle. It's a bit trickier now that the dev tools are an optional download rather than a CD/setup option, but in practise I'm usually good to start working with a fresh Mac in about half an hour. With Linux there's a lot more tinkering to get it just so, and with Windows there's generally a lot more to download and configure to get it working comfortably.

Re: New Entry Level 21.5-inch iMac

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Post by dublinben »

subsection1h wrote: post #144
Pxtl wrote: post #117

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I want a computer in my kitchen breakfast nook. This is a space where I entertain guests - a rat's nest of cables and a large desk are completely inappropriate for that venue. This is a location where I'm willing to pay a premium for aesthetics. My man-cave basement machine is a proper desktop gaming rig.

One option is to duct tape an Intel NUC to the back of a monitor. ;-)

Most net-top cases have VESA mounts for exactly that purpose. This is hardly an unsolved problem.

Re: New Entry Level 21.5-inch iMac

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Post by teh_klev »

randallsquared wrote: post #136
mwfunk wrote: post #100

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There was certainly a transition from 5:4 to widescreen displays in the 2000s, with nearly everyone but Apple opting for 16:9. I don't recall any mass adoption of 16:10 followed by a mass migration to 16:9 in the last decade, which is what you're stating happened. If Apple is moving from 16:10 to 16:9, then that would indeed be a very recent development. If this is the case, it would be kind of sad to me (I prefer a…

> I don't recall any mass adoption of 16:10 followed by a mass migration to 16:9 in the last decade, which is what you're stating happened. I don't quite agree with what you're stating I'm stating. (I realize that this has gone on way longer than the original reply warranted, but...) User teh_klev said that they were sad that 1080p "was becoming" the norm on medium sized panels, and that 1920x1200 wasn't becoming the…

Oh aye, I know the transition has happened for a while. I also realise why this happened (due to the 1080p/16:9 format being the standard in content delivery and consumer displays such as flat screen tellys). This makes it a marketing no brainer for box builders such as Dell and Apple to standardise on 16:9, the format and "1080p" branding is recognisable to consumers.

However, for those of us doing "serious" work where we need those extra 120 lines, finding a decent >=21" panel (or even 17" one in a laptop) is getting expensive/more difficult to find.

Re: New Entry Level 21.5-inch iMac

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Post by asdasd222 »

Pxtl wrote: post #69

This is really closing the already-small-gap between Apple and their competitors in the All-in-one space. I've been shopping for an All-in-one and it's thoroughly unimpressive - to get something with Apple-level quality, you really have to pay an Apple-level price... and at that point, you start wondering why shop with a brand with a worse reputation than Apple? I mean, I like Asus hardware, but I wouldn't want to pa…

http://thoughtbot.com/

Re: New Entry Level 21.5-inch iMac

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Post by randallsquared »

teh_klev wrote: post #153
randallsquared wrote: post #136

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> I don't recall any mass adoption of 16:10 followed by a mass migration to 16:9 in the last decade, which is what you're stating happened. I don't quite agree with what you're stating I'm stating. (I realize that this has gone on way longer than the original reply warranted, but...) User teh_klev said that they were sad that 1080p "was becoming" the norm on medium sized panels, and that 1920x1200 wasn't becoming the…

Oh aye, I know the transition has happened for a while. I also realise why this happened (due to the 1080p/16:9 format being the standard in content delivery and consumer displays such as flat screen tellys). This makes it a marketing no brainer for box builders such as Dell and Apple to standardise on 16:9, the format and "1080p" branding is recognisable to consumers. However, for those of us doing "serious" work wh…

I agree. If you are open to panels above 21", but aren't fond of the 30Hz issue with 4K/UHD, I'm using QHD 27" panels that I find really nice.

Review: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/planar-pxl2790mw-review,...

Re: New Entry Level 21.5-inch iMac

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Post by hatbert »

kayoone wrote: post #133
hatbert wrote: post #125

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The Turbo Boost clock speed is only around 15% lower than the other iMacs, though (2.7 GHz vs 3.2 GHz). It looks like the same processor as the MacBook Air. The bigger problem is probably memory--only 8GB, soldered to the board, and no option for more, even at time of purchase. Could be worse, though. With Mavericks, 8GB is about the minimum configuration for "normal people" tasks.

Mavericks works fine on my 2011 11" MBA with 4GB Ram. I don't use this machine for work, but it's still fine for everything else.

I'd believe that, but your MBA also has an SSD, which partially masks the effect of swapping out pages. True, SSD is an option for the new iMac, but it's not included in the base price.

Re: New Entry Level 21.5-inch iMac

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Post by simoelalj »

joezydeco wrote: post #79
toomuchtodo wrote: post #71

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I bought my grandmother an iMac refurbished: http://www.refurb.me/us/desktop Very pleased, saved ~$200 off list. Still get a warranty.

Always buy refurbished directly from Apple. You get a full year of AppleCare warranty attached to the purchase and can buy more years of AppleCare after that. http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals When a new model launches, that's the best time to buy refurbs on the older stuff. The older Macbook Airs are going for 35-40% off list right now.

http://www.refurb.me/ is monitoring service for the official Apple refurb store. Because it's hard to know when the product that you want to buy will become available. RefurbMe will alert you by email or SMS to go buy it on the Apple Store.
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