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Colorado Stores Throw Open Their Doors to Pot Buyers

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Post by jonknee »

heynk wrote: post #30

Does anyone know if Colorado is enforcing seed traceability? That is one of the rules according to Washington's I-502 ( http://www.liq.wa.gov/publications/Marijuana/I-502/I-502_Dra... crtl-f "Traceability"). Theoretically, that means the Feds would be able to know where the pot came from if it was found out of state. If implemented effectively, that would negate some of the worry about the product ending up in the wr…

I'd assume that's like how they do tracking for medications--based on the packaging.

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Post by chimeracoder »

hollerith wrote: post #80
oinksoft wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is medical grade tea a thing? It takes a lot of skill and either great weather or a big investment in indoor growing equipment to grow a single medical plant. Comparing tea and cannabis prices doesn't make much sense.

Now stop that right now! :) I strongly doubt there is any such thing as "medical- grade " marijuana. "Medical marijuana" refers to pot sold in such as way as to shield the buyer and seller from criminal liability (by requiring a prescription from a health-care provider). No official or semi-official body is holding this medical marijuana to any standard. Heading off a potential nit: in the last year or two a new stra…

> I strongly doubt there is any such thing as "medical-grade" marijuana.

Actually, marijuana contains about 70 different cannabinoids. Different strains contain different ratios of these cannabinoids, and therefore different strains can be more (or less) effective for treating various ailments. Epileptics may require different strains from people suffering from chronic pain, for example.

For people who have very specific medical needs, it is very helpful to have access to specific strains so that they can consume less and still reap the benefits.

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Post by mscarborough »

mschuster91 wrote: post #91
nathos wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The black population is just 4.1% of Colorado, vs. the national average of 13.1%

I'm non-US so I dont have any idea where to obtain detailed statistics - but does anyone have data about how many blacks in Colorado are in state/fed jail for pot compared to the whole US? And as a side question: do private jails exist in Colorado, or is the jail system in state hands?

Maybe you should do that research yourself before you spout off about how marijuana legalization in Colorado will drastically affect the racial ratios of imprisoned inmates here.

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Post by eric_the_read »

squintychino wrote: post #65
lotharbot wrote: post #59

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The "tea" you get for 6 dollars a pound in the US is, generally speaking, the crumbs and fragments leftover from making actually good tea. Wouldn't surprise me if you could also eventually get crumb-and-fragment grade pot for 6 bucks a pound. There's still a market for legitimately high grade tea (not Teavana). I'm interested to see what sort of market develops, over time, for legitimately high-grade MJ here in Color…

Could you recommend a good place online to order good "tea"? I'd seriously like to try some to get a sense of what real tea is suppose to taste like.

I've been ordering from http://theteatable.com/ for a few years now; their prices are pretty good, but their selection is remarkable. I can also strongly endorse http://thesweethome.com/reviews/best-tea-steeper/ as a fantastic tea steeper; I was using it long before they recommended it.

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Post by Crito »

kbd wrote: post #124
xacaxulu wrote: post #94

Colorado, unlike a large number of US states, seems to take crazy things like simple economics and overwhelmingly positive scientific research into account when drafting laws. Here in the south we prefer to use 1950's mores, Jim Crow era law enforcement priorities and 3000 year old Judean religious texts when writing our laws. Bravo Colorado!

> ...and 3000 year old Judean religious texts... FWIW there's nothing in the Bible about throwing people in jail for alcohol (still baffled the US ever passed alcohol prohibition) or drugs. I'd argue against prohibition on Christian grounds as well as other grounds.

Unsurprisingly, Christians frequently disagree with each other on matters of religion.

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Post by mturmon »

dscrd wrote: post #48
nhebb wrote: post #41

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I imagine that since part of the customer base is underage, the illegal market will still exist.

Are there illegal markets for booze and tobacco?

One thing I don't see mentioned here is the illegal tobacco market due to high taxes. You can get cigs from Mexico, or a low-tax state, say, and re-import them into a high-tax state.

This is one of the braking factors on tobacco taxes. It applies to any market -- if the taxes are too high, people will cheat the taxes.

Edit: I see the first link by @munin refers to a Virginia-to-NY cig smuggling scheme.

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Post by oinksoft »

hollerith wrote: post #80
oinksoft wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is medical grade tea a thing? It takes a lot of skill and either great weather or a big investment in indoor growing equipment to grow a single medical plant. Comparing tea and cannabis prices doesn't make much sense.

Now stop that right now! :) I strongly doubt there is any such thing as "medical- grade " marijuana. "Medical marijuana" refers to pot sold in such as way as to shield the buyer and seller from criminal liability (by requiring a prescription from a health-care provider). No official or semi-official body is holding this medical marijuana to any standard. Heading off a potential nit: in the last year or two a new stra…

High CBD/low THC strains are absolutely referred to as MMJ. They're being specifically cultivated and researched for medical uses (especially for epilepsy) in Israel and elsewhere.

Also, calling the "medical" label a legal shield is bizarre. Medical cannabis is, as others commented, high-grade cannabis useful for treating serious conditions and helping cancer, AIDS, MS patients, etc.

I'm sorry but I don't think you are informed on this topic at all.

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Post by DonGateley »

squirejons wrote: post #42

in this discussion in the media, out of all the millions of words that are going to be written about pot legalization in WA and CO over the next few weeks, how many words are going to be devoted to the fact that in the states of washington and colorado pot was legalized because the citizens of those states are able to create their own laws? Very few words will be devoted to that aspect of it, and those corporate medi…

The initiative process will continue to be problematic until it is restricted by the necessity of providing funding for any expenditures it mandates. Witness California.

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Post by Crito »

mschuster91 wrote: post #121
wavefunction wrote: post #104

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Fortunately there's always meth :(

...and a shitload of other drugs. While white people can get away with pretty much anything.

Meth in America is typically stereotyped as a "white" drug. Google "faces of meth" to see what I mean. 29% of white prisoners in Federal prisons report using meth in the month before their arrest., compared to only 1% of black prisoners. Law enforcement efforts targeting methamphetamine use have traditionally targeted rural areas; areas that are traditionally white.

*"The American criminal justice system is rife with racial disparities such a these, according to a report from the Human Rights Watch. But the fight against methamphetamine in Iowa in recent years is thought to be behind a spike in the number of whites imprisoned on drug charges and a decrease in blacks imprisoned on drug offenses, according to the report.“It suggests that law enforcement was increasing its attention to meth and less to other types of drugs … Meth is a ‘by whites, for whites’ drug,’” said Jamie Fellner, senior counsel and author of the report, titled “Targeting Blacks: Drug Law Enforcement and Race in the United States.”"

http://iowaindependent.com/2431/meth-arrests-likely-behind-l...

Knock it off with your uninformed race-bating.

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Post by kbd »

Crito wrote: post #155
kbd wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ...and 3000 year old Judean religious texts... FWIW there's nothing in the Bible about throwing people in jail for alcohol (still baffled the US ever passed alcohol prohibition) or drugs. I'd argue against prohibition on Christian grounds as well as other grounds.

Unsurprisingly, Christians frequently disagree with each other on matters of religion.

If you're going to try to invalidate what I wrote by "people disagree" then justify from the text where it says that drugs should be illegal and punishable by imprisonment.
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