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Respect is earned, not given.
People on HN generally start off with a reasonable amount of respect from me - more so than Reddit or 4chan for instance. I've never seen anyone piss it away so rapidly before though.
I'm tired of seeing everything linked to sexism in tech. Moreover, sexism isn't a female only problem: try (as a male) to get a job in a kindergartn or a nursery school.
Not everything is. Sexist things in tech get linked to sexism.
Obviously not everyone agrees what is sexist.
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Yeah, great argument. So if you hear a drum, you have no concept of a drummer? No, you're right - men who see just a pair of tits think "that's all I need - nothing attached, just the tits pleaze, tyvm."
I'm not talking about every guy on the planet. But I think it's very clear that whoever made this app thought, "Know what? We should make an app that just has tits. Nothing else, just tits." More to the point: the women are being used in a way that is completely determined by the user of the app, instead of being given any kind of consideration as people.
If I am staring at a woman's tits - I am certainly giving her whole person my consideration, even though my eyes can only look at one thing at a time. WTF would I do with just a pair of tits?
No, the reason I'm looking is that I probably want more.
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I'm not talking about every guy on the planet. But I think it's very clear that whoever made this app thought, "Know what? We should make an app that just has tits. Nothing else, just tits." More to the point: the women are being used in a way that is completely determined by the user of the app, instead of being given any kind of consideration as people.
Tits are part of people. I have tits. People have tits and I like people and I like their tits. Without people, there are no tits. How many different ways can I say this? I don't like tits that are disconnected from people. That's disgusting. If I am staring at a woman's tits - I am certainly giving her whole person my consideration, even though my eyes can only look at one thing at a time. WTF would I do with just a…
This app removes the women's ability to participate in the exchange at all. They have no control and are presented in a way that is completely in control of the user. When you remove her ability to decide how her body is being used, you are not considering her as a whole person. It's not about tits.
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Sexism is not a problem for men as long as men hold most of the power and are afforded most of the best opportunities. Equality is not about uniformity — it is about the overall balance. You are picking small examples where women outnumber men and are claiming cause and effect. Show me a genuinely powerful organisation or occupation that discriminates against men and I'll fight it with you. Looking at Kindergarten te…
You are using an extremist definition of sexism. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree; when this is the foundation I could never agree with you. I think that this uncompromising attitude harms your cause rather than help it, though. I am a big proponent of equality of opportunity, fighting for it whenever I see gender discrimination in my regular circle. But this adversarial form of feminism makes otherwise c…
If you have a major flood in your garden you don't rush to sort out a dripping tap. First you tackle the flood then you investigate the tap. Anyone shouting 'the tap, the tap!' would be quite rightfully lambasted as unhelpful.
Nursing & childcare are statistically women-only due to sexism against women, not due to sexism against men. These are low-paying, low-power jobs where only the bosses tend to be male.
If some women are protectionist about men joining their ranks (which, by the way, I highly doubt until I see some evidence — I have met many of both) it is probably due either due to fears of pedophilia (almost certainly unfair) or due to fears that men will be promoted over them (very real).
Anti-male sexism in the work-place is a red-herring. It is a minuscule problem compared to anti-female sexism and, to my ears, carping on about it sounds as misplaced as white males going on about being discriminated by ethnic minorities.
As a woman in tech, I'd like to thank the men in this thread who obviously get what the problem is here. This sort of stuff can only change with a concerted effort from both men and women to change the culture. And it's small steps like standing up to sexist jerks and calling out people who engage in activities like this that will get us closer to our destination.
You become part of the problem when you do stuff like this.
You don't see white people going around using the word "nigga" lightly, why should it be OK for this sort of joke to be made at a tech conference? It's not OK. It may never be OK. So just stop doing it. You're not Louis CK, you didn't make a career of comedy. Don't think you can tread the line of these social issues and not have it blow up in your face.
Frankly, TitStare was quite funny. In despite of being tits-related, i can't see how a woman could find it offensive (maybe because she has tits too? i can't see the correlation). It's more about lonely developers staring at tits. It's funny to see how the tech industry is passing thru its "feminist" age and just can't understand that THERE ARE differences between men and women, which doesn't mean anyhow that one is…
As a woman in tech, I'd like to thank the men in this thread who obviously get what the problem is here. This sort of stuff can only change with a concerted effort from both men and women to change the culture. And it's small steps like standing up to sexist jerks and calling out people who engage in activities like this that will get us closer to our destination.
Really, men in tech need to stop thinking that they're somehow not part of the problem and are therefore free to make jokes about it. You become part of the problem when you do stuff like this. You don't see white people going around using the word "nigga" lightly, why should it be OK for this sort of joke to be made at a tech conference? It's not OK. It may never be OK. So just stop doing it. You're not Louis CK, yo…
Because people who think these are the same thing are delusional.