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Quinoa should be taking over the world. This is why it isn’t

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Re: Quinoa should be taking over the world. This is why it isn’t

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Meh... Cannabis seed is more nutritious, and has more uses, as does the cannabis fibers, that quinoa pales in comparison. Cannabis is easier to grow as well. If our governments weren't so afraid of people getting stoned the economic benefits of cannabis would make it a major cash crop capable of outperforming quinoa in every aspect.

Quinoa plants produce more seeds. Sounds like pothead wishful thinking.

Re: Quinoa should be taking over the world. This is why it isn’t

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A particular concern with quinoa, given its narrow (native) growing area, and the poverty endemic to that area, is that worldwide demand for the crop has out-priced its growers' and their communities' ability to afford it in order to feed themselves . A select few brands set aside some of each harvest specifically for that purpose (and also put some of their profits back into improving the farms, sending the farmers'…

Can you elaborate on this a bit? I can't comprehend the concept of people growing a crop not being able to afford to eat it - if they're the ones growing it, then they don't have to buy it at all, just sell less of it. And surely the high international demand for quinoa means that they're making much more money in trade than previously.

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#153
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I still don't understand. If a farmer produces 10 units of quinoa and sell 4 every year, they'll still produce 10 units no matter what the price is. They'll still be able to sell 4 units, and still be able to consume 6. The only difference would be that farmers will make more of a profit selling the 4 units. The only possible explanation would be that the resources (farming equipment, seeds, fertilizer?) required to…

More typically, farmers produce 10 units, sell 3, and buy another 10 later in the year. Hence any rise in price is a net loss for them.

Where does the second set of 10 units come from?

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If they are net consumers of the staple, they must be net producers of some other crops. If the price of the staple increases dramatically, can't they shift towards eating other crops (that they were previously net producers of)?

"If they are net consumers of the staple, they must be net producers of some other crops." Again, those other crops are likely more expensive per calorie. That means there is no mix of consumption that will get them the same amount of calories they previously consumed, which for subsistence farmers will often mean malnutrition if not starvation.

> those other crops are likely more expensive

In terms of effort required to grow those crops, or in terms of market price? If they're growing the crops in order to eat them, the market price isn't relevant (except that if those other crops are expensive on the market, they can sell those for a profit, too).

Re: Quinoa should be taking over the world. This is why it isn’t

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Oatmeal is very dense. Calorie for Calorie Quinoa has more protein and dietary fiber than oatmeal. 100 calories of Quinoa http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=83+g+quinoa 100 calories of Oatmeal http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=26+g+oatmeal However if you look at the vitamins, oatmeal wins. I also wouldn't call Quinoa a super food, but it does fill a gap left by other grains and is definitely a worthy addition to…

Side-by-side comparison: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=26+g+oatmeal+vs+83g+qui... The vitamins is probably missing data-- Vitamin C is biochemically critical, so a plant would have some amount of it.

Maybe I'm going cross eyed from a long day, but looking at that result... how can Quaker oatmeal have 2g of protein and be 5% USRDA, while quinoa has 4g of protein yet 7% USRDA? Shouldn't that be 10% USRDA for quinoa?

Re: Quinoa should be taking over the world. This is why it isn’t

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Quinoa, famous for protein and fiber content, still contains less protein and fiber than, say, oatmeal. It's okay - hyperventilating paleo bloggers have raised concerns about saponins -- but the whole "superfood" frenzy about quinoa is just a tad off base. It's okay, not bad for you, probably better than white rice or processed food, but most of what quinoa has going for it is simply that it is real and unmodified. I…

Oatmeal is very dense. Calorie for Calorie Quinoa has more protein and dietary fiber than oatmeal. 100 calories of Quinoa http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=83+g+quinoa 100 calories of Oatmeal http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=26+g+oatmeal However if you look at the vitamins, oatmeal wins. I also wouldn't call Quinoa a super food, but it does fill a gap left by other grains and is definitely a worthy addition to…

100 calories of oatmeal is 26g. 100g of quinoa is 83g. Research [0] shows that portion size is important in controlling obesity.

[0] http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/76/6/1207.full (note - this was just a quick google, I'm no expert in this area)

Re: Quinoa should be taking over the world. This is why it isn’t

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Side-by-side comparison: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=26+g+oatmeal+vs+83g+qui... The vitamins is probably missing data-- Vitamin C is biochemically critical, so a plant would have some amount of it.

Maybe I'm going cross eyed from a long day, but looking at that result... how can Quaker oatmeal have 2g of protein and be 5% USRDA, while quinoa has 4g of protein yet 7% USRDA? Shouldn't that be 10% USRDA for quinoa?

Rounding. The RDA is 50 grams. So oatmeal's 2g is closer to 2.5g and quinoa's 4g is closer to 3.5g. At least that'd be my guess.

Re: Quinoa should be taking over the world. This is why it isn’t

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Quinoa is very expensive in India.

Indians have been using many millets like Finger Millet, Foxtail Millet, Little Millets, they are rich in proteins, gluten-free and all that.

It is only now that we are using polished white rice and have become highly vulnerable to lifestyle diseases like Diabetes.

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Side-by-side comparison: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=26+g+oatmeal+vs+83g+qui... The vitamins is probably missing data-- Vitamin C is biochemically critical, so a plant would have some amount of it.

Maybe I'm going cross eyed from a long day, but looking at that result... how can Quaker oatmeal have 2g of protein and be 5% USRDA, while quinoa has 4g of protein yet 7% USRDA? Shouldn't that be 10% USRDA for quinoa?

Probably rounding issues, maybe intentional. Food vendors are known to fudge numbers in the low digits, legally, which result in problems like this when you extrapolate.

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Side-by-side comparison: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=26+g+oatmeal+vs+83g+qui... The vitamins is probably missing data-- Vitamin C is biochemically critical, so a plant would have some amount of it.

Maybe I'm going cross eyed from a long day, but looking at that result... how can Quaker oatmeal have 2g of protein and be 5% USRDA, while quinoa has 4g of protein yet 7% USRDA? Shouldn't that be 10% USRDA for quinoa?

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