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The Jobless Rate for Poor Black Teen Dropouts is 95%

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Re: The Jobless Rate for Poor Black Teen Dropouts is 95%

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Apparently I am the only one who wouldn't be okay totally okay with tens of thousands of cheaters. Anyway you could reduce that number drastically by offering basic income in the form of goods: a bed to sleep in, clothing to wear and food to eat. Nobody is going to cheat themself to the ability to sleep in two beds, and you can only eat so much food. This might be more expensive, but I feel like a program with tens o…

It's OK to be outraged by huge numbers even if they're small fractions. Personally (unrelated to the current topic), I'm outraged by the idea of executing even a single innocent person; it doesn't matter if 99.9% of convicted, executed murderers are in truth murdering unrepentant, if one person is executed wrongly, that's a big fucking deal. But I gotta disagree with you on goods versus money. Trying to provide goods…

You don't to convince me capitalism is the best thing ever - I already agree with you.

But I am not interested in getting the most out of every dollar in aid - I am interested in getting people of the aid ASAP, and I don't think the best why to do that is to make their lives as good as possible right now. A place to sleep, clothing and food are the necessities of life (technically you could run around naked. In practice you would freeze to death in most of the places you could go) and this form of basic income would allow people to survive, but force them to work (or somehow produce) for anything above survival. In addition any little thing they did would bring immediate rewards to them.

In the case your person who already has a bed, he would certainly be welcome to just eat the meal and with his basic needs taken care of a mimimum wage job would enable him to save for the text-books or whatever.

I am assuming for the sake of this that people are lazy and will do no work that does not benefit them, that if free money is available people will take them, and that most would not use that money to do long term life improvement (certainly some would, but if you look at the number of people in the US who are overweight you will note that most aren't will to take pain for for pleasure later). If they have earned the money at a job it is theirs to do with as they please, if they get it from the government it comes out of their neighbors pockets. It seems only fair then that their neighbors should decide how it is used.

Re: The Jobless Rate for Poor Black Teen Dropouts is 95%

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> The reason black youths have high unemployment rates is their (typically unwed) mothers already live off a combination of section 8 housing, food stamps, medicaid, other govt. programs and whatever they can get under the table to keep their reportable income low. Got a source, there, David Duke? FYI low-income/poor black youth ≠ all black youth.

Not all, I didn't say all. The source is my current home in Georgia and my wife's experience as a HS teacher.

So you have no source for your claim about the mothers of black youth being "typically unwed." What you are doing, then, is what we refer to in the common vernacular as "talking out of your ass."

White people smell like hotdogs and never take baths. Source: I live in Vermont and my husband works at a car dealership.

^this is how stupid you sound.

Re: The Jobless Rate for Poor Black Teen Dropouts is 95%

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I can't speak for the US, but here in Canada everyone is already trying pretty much their hardest to make youth stay in school. Doesn't always work, and we need to have alternative solutions (/jobs) for those who do drop out.

Isn't that what GEDs are for in the US?

Maybe. If the article is to be believed, they obviously aren't being promoted enough. One thing we do have here in Canada is a lot of education propaganda (which is basically the only kind that I like). I suppose in the US that kind of thing varies from state to state.
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