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Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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I ran Graphene without a Sim card for 2 months and as soon as I added a Sim card (with of course, difficult to vet networking) the phone is always hot and the battery life reduced by half. Might be a coincidence but also made me rethink how I feel about Graphene

My 9a running GrapheneOS doesn't get hot and battery life seems no different to other phones I've had the last few years.

That can also indicate you are not a PoI

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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What about running the whole Android infrastructure, but on top of a non-Android Linux distro? And this, on top of a Android kernel (otherwise you won't have the drivers yo uneed) The advantage being, we can manage packages using a regular Linux distro

You can't because a lot of apps check that the phone is controlled by Google with Play Integrity. Google thought about this, don't worry. They learned their lesson after CyanogenMod tried to compete by offering an alternative. Non-Google Android are now dead except in China.

Well for me I use Lineage without even MicroG and everything I need works - yes even banking

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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What's stopping me from using a browser to log in to my bank? Assuming my bank is one of the ones that requires you to lock down sideloading (they aren't, but i know many are).

The websites don't have feature parity with the apps these days. Things like being able to deposit a cheque aren't available among other things.

Some older banks do have more features in their website than their app. It's usually the ones with the worse, most outdated UIs and almost useless mobile apps. After years of using several mobile-first neo-banks, I switched to a traditional bank and boy, was I not ready for the trip back in time.

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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I've never really understood why we chase Android-alikes on mobile platforms instead of trying to build on mainstream Linux. I know some folks in the nix community (nix-on-droid and other projects) have tried to bring us closer to this, but projects like Graphene seem to have a lot of traction.

All the existing apps are on Android and iOS. Graphene lets you run them. You can't have a bank account on a Linux phone* because they won't let you, but you can on Android including on Graphene. * before replying snarkily that Android is Linux, please take a long walk off a short pier, thanks

I use my web browser to access my bank and tell banks that require apps to go fuck themselves.

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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Specific devices: >At the time of writing, within ~12 months, in 2027, the 2027 Signature, Razr fold, and Razr flip will meet the hardware security requirements and should have official GrapheneOS support. Motorola is currently porting GrapheneOS to their devices. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49038982

I knew it would be their higher end devices but I really wish they would have put it on their lower end as well.

I have a Moto G running LineageOS and it's my favorite phone ever. The ability to have my 800GB of music synced to a sdcard is something I'm loath to give up.

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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I've never really understood why we chase Android-alikes on mobile platforms instead of trying to build on mainstream Linux. I know some folks in the nix community (nix-on-droid and other projects) have tried to bring us closer to this, but projects like Graphene seem to have a lot of traction.

AOSP has way better security and therefore privacy than desktop linux.

This is something that no Linux phone enthusiast seems to understand.

Also if we use atomic distros with flatpaks and whatnot that mimic Android security the end user basically ends up having to essentially use Termux (but busybox or something similar) on their Linux phone as well

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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What's stopping me from using a browser to log in to my bank? Assuming my bank is one of the ones that requires you to lock down sideloading (they aren't, but i know many are).

The bank itself. They want to see where are you, what you do and snoop on anything they can about you. Having a spywa^W sorry, bank app is the best way to do that. Source: my bank which recently 'upgraded' a browser version to a glorified SPA which even renders as a vertical oriented app on a landscape 4K monitor.

Sounds like it's time for a new bank.

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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I ran Graphene without a Sim card for 2 months and as soon as I added a Sim card (with of course, difficult to vet networking) the phone is always hot and the battery life reduced by half. Might be a coincidence but also made me rethink how I feel about Graphene

That happened to my pixel running stock android and it was the 5G. As soon as I disabled it the battery lasted longer and the phone was way cooler. After all, I'm totally fine with LTE speeds

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

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What's stopping me from using a browser to log in to my bank? Assuming my bank is one of the ones that requires you to lock down sideloading (they aren't, but i know many are).

Nothing is stopping you. You're free to use a desktop web app that either doesn't work or is terribly slow or has limited features on a mobile web browser. I'd love it if all apps were PWAs but that is not the case.

Eh? The bank apps I’ve seen appear to be webviews wrapping their mobile site. Much to my chagrin, I’ll add.
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