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Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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What's UBNT?

Stock symbol for Ubquiti, the company being discussed.

The stock symbol for Ubiquiti is actually UI, not UBNT. UBNT was the symbol for the old name that hasn't been used since 2019. I have no idea why changing the name also changed the stock symbol, but shrug

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Anything can be sold to PE.

Sure. But all you can do, when deciding with whom to do business, is base your decision on what they have already done. It's not viable to refuse to do business with a company on the basis of "they might one day get bought by PE and introduce customer hostile changes".

I mean, in the NAS space with a plethora of open source alternatives, that is a viable stance.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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The drives are the expensive part, though - 16x24TB HDDs adds another $11k. (Not that you need that much for canceling streaming, I’d get a home Synology or diy TrueNAS for that anyway)

As a Synology owner, I would not recommend anyone to get into Synology at this point after the drive BS they pulled off. I'm planning on building myself a DIY server with Unraid instead.

I’m still on DSM 6, and just added a new unapproved drive, and it was just a click through warning. Is it much worse on the newer DSM versions?

EDIT oof yeah that’s pretty horrible, I take back my Synology recc. Looks like it’s partly model-based restrictions. That’s a shame, they were nice as relatively low maintenance devices.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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> "Dual 25 Gigabit SFP28 ports and redundant power supplies for resilience" Can you actually saturate the links with the spinning drives? I've had the hardest time making my TrueNAS ZFS server fast when it was filled with HDD spinning disks. I initially also had 12 of them trying to get maximum speed. I have 128GB RAM and a 10G ethernet connection. I tried all types of optimizations like L2ARC via NVMe, etc, and it w…

> Can you actually saturate the links with the spinning drives? There can easily be a bottleneck depending on how the setup the sata/sas, but if you can get sustained sequential reads or writes, 16x drives at 6 Gbps sata should be able to saturate 2x 25 Gbps ethernet. The store link shows two expansion ports as well which should help get bandwidth to the point where 25 Gbps is useful. Less likely with random reads/wr…

I must have had a bottle neck somewhere.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Stock symbol for Ubquiti, the company being discussed.

The stock symbol for Ubiquiti is actually UI, not UBNT. UBNT was the symbol for the old name that hasn't been used since 2019. I have no idea why changing the name also changed the stock symbol, but shrug

Thanks, I think. I usually write UBNT because it's distinct and spelling out "Ubiquiti" hurts my soul in ways that I find difficult to properly articulate.

But UI just seems so ambiguous. :)

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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While that's the ARC, I would be surprised if they blocked you from building vdevs with SSDs. Looking at the specs: https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/network-storage/products... Hard Drive Capacity (16) 2.5/3.5" HDD / SSD support (2) M.2 NVMe SSD support (2) Expansion ports support I think you're right we only get two SSDs on NVME as the cache, but it looks like we can run the rest (16) as SATA SSDs, which is often…

No I think it's perfectly fine, if I'm accessing files over a network I don't expect them to be blazing fast anyway.

FYI: you should upgrade to 10gbe if your network is slow. It isn't that expensive these days: https://ben3d.ca/blog/home-network-lessons

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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With face detection? License plates? Tamper protection? I'm guessing you're thinking Reolink or other Chinese ultra-commodity cam. It's fine, it's just in a different product class and ecosystem - and that's where enterprises fit in, they want that support+ecosystem and not DIYing. Reolink CX820 8MP $129 https://reolink.com/product/cx820/ Unifi G6 8MP ~$300 https://techspecs.ui.com/unifi/physical-security/uvc-g6-dome…

> With face detection? License plates? Tamper protection? I do that with my Unifi Protect doorbell. RTSP streams. Google Coral. Frigate. Scales very well. Do ML on low quality stream. Look/save the high quality stream. You do it all centralized, and you can put the camera(s) on a seperate VLAN. They don't even need internet access. If you run them over PoE twisted pair, the attacker would need physical access to perf…

Wow, that's cool, learned something new today. Does that work better in your estimation than the UI Protect software?

The purpose of my comment had only been pointing out those features don't come onboard a $100 cam.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Ubiquiti's biggest feature is no monthly recurring cost. I really hope they continue the streak on products like this. Seems like anything else bought up these days is switched to an MRR model with no vision into the long term viability.

The founders being the erstwhile Apple routers team, I believe they are playing the Apple game — sell good quality hardware; free the software that runs the hardware.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Looks interesting, but likely lacks FIPS support which makes it an issue for companies that work with the government.

Are Ubiquiti products commonplace for companies that contract with the US government outside of the DoD/DoW? Since DoD/DoW generally requires STIG compliance, and none authored are for any specific Ubiquiti product, we can cross that off the list. Sure they can get exceptions or use a more generalized STIG but stakeholders generally have pre-defined limitations on what they will and will not allow on networks they sp…

The Defense Industrial Base is 10s of thousands of companies. May are small businesses. Many need to obtain CMMC Level 2, which has requirements for FIPS certified encryption. Our systems do not directly connect to Government systems and those STIGs may not apply directly. So, could I use Ubiquiti in some places? Maybe, not to store controlled information in this case. I could probably store previously fips encrypted files there. Would I want to use Ubiquiti cloud services? No.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Wireless Time Machine backup works until one day, Time Machine decides to shit the bed. Do not trust it. Invest in a different backup solution if your data is at all important to you. Something like Arq or Backblaze or tarsnap.

I hear this sentiment a lot, but I've not had a problem with Time Machine in years across multiple MacBooks in my household. Backing up to TrueNAS. Unifi networking. It Just Works. I just checked any my oldest TM backup for the MacBook from which I'm typing is 2023-09-14. This MacBook has a 2 TB SSD and I have the TM volume quota set to 3 TB. TM culls old backups as needed. The TM GUI is still terrible , but you can…

I've had all manner of issues, backing up via Ethernet and Wifi to FreeNAS and then to Synology. The only backups with Time Machine I had no issue with were to local USB drives.

Time Machine would work and work and work until one day... "Cannot write to your backup" and the whole thing would be corrupt and not even readable.

Flirted with Acronis TrueImage which was worse. Hell, even before catastrophic corruption, attempting to restore a file from a decent size catalog even over 10gbE would generally cause a beachball for minutes and then you had to be very careful to browse exactly to the location and file you wanted to restore (poking around trying to find it would inevitably totally crash the client, and even being careful sometimes would).

I ended up moving to Carbon Copy Cloner to Synology, with the Synology taking a snapshot 10 minutes before CCC starts its nightly run.

A few months in and it has been rock solid. If I want to restore I can just browse the snapshot in Synology and either copy a file directly from the Snapshot browser or mount the entire snapshot as a shared folder.

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