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Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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I do something similar, use an open source service called addy.io, bought a domain but you can also use their domains too, and each website has a separate login i create through bitwarden with the addy integration.

addy.io and proton pass are both great, affordable options. (Proton pass has a built in hide-my-email feature that supports custom domains)

addy.io is also self-hostable

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Pro tip for doing something like this without apple. Buy or get a cheap domain name. Create a subdomain on it and have it catch and forward all messages to you when sent to that sub. For example: nytimes@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail anything-else@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail You dont even need to materialize aliases at all.

The problem is if someone figures it out and starts sending you spam to {random}@domain.tld. That's when you will need to sit down and start creating actual aliases for all those used email addresses and stop the catch-all forwarding:) Also, another downside is that you will loose privacy by using your own domain. And the lack of privacy makes targeted scam/phishing more likely, and targeted scam is the one we are mo…

I have run this for years with very little problems. And I can honestly say that have not found anyone writing to addresses I did not give them at their domain. Simple as this is, it is way to niche for companies to figure it out and exploit it. And if that really was a problem I'd just create a new subdomain.

If you are worried about privacy, get a domain just for this. Use domain privacy and dont host other things there.

Yes, some sites whitelist domains or dont allow subdomains. For those I'll use another account - or a firefox alias or something. But 9 out of 10 work fine.

I am not a fan of alias services since materializing names takes discipline. How many do you make? Maybe there is a limit of 50. When do you share them across services? My guess is many people just create 2 or 3 aliases they use for everything - which defeats the purpose. Sure, it masks your personal address, but once one gets compromised, you find it basically served as your personal address anyway.

I also dont really keep track of most of the names I use. Since most are one time things that I would never use again, like to sign a waiver or something. But I mostly stick to '{domain}@' for the names. So my nytimes account would just be nytimes@, which is predictable when I need to recover it. I used to use addy.io for this, but it was not as good since it had account limits and I had to manually manage every alias. Much easier for me to just create a mail filter to sinkhole an old name. Of course I have never really needed to do this anyway.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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If you don't mind trusting another company with forwarding your emails, it's definitely less hassle to set up an equivalent service for yourself.

If you mean "set up an equivalent service" under your own domain, that's both less private and more likely to be blocked; there are a lot of services which, unfortunately, only allow sign-ups from big, well-known domains.

>there are a lot of services which, unfortunately, only allow sign-ups from big, well-known domains.

I have never encountered one.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Yes but not always applicable unfortunately… e.g. the other day I was in Italy, I needed to park on the publicly available parking which was paid to the municipality. No other parking available anywhere near in 30 mins walking distance. (paid or free) I had to download a 3rd party app that asked me to register. This app isn’t by the Italian government, it’s affiliated though. So in that situation, I want nothing to d…

Have exactly the same situation with parking in Italy. Having a private company operating all paid parking on an island is not very healthy.

Having a handful of companies that can contact you has created a land of monopoly hyperscalers.

It's so hard to build anything big and durable because they've created these steep gradients.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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I use Proton aliases everywhere...Well not everywhere, there are indeed quite some places that don't accept a passmail.net address... So I can imagine this becoming a useless feature, at least on some sites. Btw I only use these aliases for sites where I don't mind loosing the login, otherwise it would the mother of all lock-ins... Would have been nice if I could opt for aliases on my own (secondary?) domain... At le…

You can create custom aliases on your own domain. I do this for every log in and am migrating old emails to my custom domain aliases.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Are there really? I don't think I've ever encountered such a service in all the years I've been using an email address under my own domain. And blocking every email address that's not from a big provider means blocking basically everyone who tries to sign up with their company email, which might not be great for business.

Within the last month both Mapbox and Etsy blocked my attempts to signup using a Proton Mail alias. How many services do you sign up for in recent years, on average? The practice is becoming incredibly common and more than likely you're just grandfathered in.

are you sure they're not just blacklisting protonmail vs. whitelisting known providers? ime a lot of sites block "temporary" or "anonymous" email providers
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