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Sweet Jeebus, macOS 27 Golden Gate Removes the Dumb Icons from Menu Items

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Re: Sweet Jeebus, macOS 27 Golden Gate Removes the Dumb Icons from Menu Items

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I agree with you on everything but Skeuomorphism - seeing that leather address book made me genuinely repulsed every time, it felt like I was using a child's computer.

Taste is subjective indeed, but for me they were more expressive and visually appealing than ironed out icons.

Genuinely glad someone liked them!

Re: Sweet Jeebus, macOS 27 Golden Gate Removes the Dumb Icons from Menu Items

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Sometimes who can't be bothered to make the text on their website not extremely tiny when viewing on mobile shouldn't be writing multi-page rants on the other people's UI.

On the sites I visit often I use uBlock Origin to make fonts large enough for me to read (damn you, presbyopia!). Otherwise I use Ctrl-+ to increase the font size (Daring Fireball, for example).

news.ycombinator.com##:style(font-size: 18pt !important)

myanimelist.net##:style(font-size: 14pt !important)

old.reddit.com##*:style(font-size: 17pt !important)

Re: Sweet Jeebus, macOS 27 Golden Gate Removes the Dumb Icons from Menu Items

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Good grief, hopefully in v28 Lemay will also throw away the absolute crap that is Liquid glass. Aesthetically it looks horrible, it slows my iPhone 13 — which never before lagged in all its life since iOS 15 – to a maddening crawl. Liquid glass should be taught in design school as an example of what not to do when you design UX. And also in business school as a case of how middle management can fudge up something tha…

Apple just rolled out all of the liquid glass components and style guides to update apps with. No way they're getting rid of it any time soon.

Re: Sweet Jeebus, macOS 27 Golden Gate Removes the Dumb Icons from Menu Items

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The icons in menu items is one of the reasons I'm still on Sequoia. This settles it; I'll just stay on Sequoia until Golden Gate is released. I can't say the following for sure, but there's evidence of it: One of Apple's real strengths and differentiators is that it listens to customer feedback to the point that it will say: "Hey, this was dumb. Customer feedback proves it. Let's just get rid of it like it never happ…

The butterfly keys were around five years before they changed them. Which may have been related to the lawsuit about them? I also vaguely recall issues with their magsafe connectors and lawyers.

Hardware timelines are long. I doubt they could have switched in less than three years regardless.

Re: Sweet Jeebus, macOS 27 Golden Gate Removes the Dumb Icons from Menu Items

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Nope, HN's CSS accommodates smaller screen sizes [1]: /* mobile device */ @media only screen and (min-width : 300px) and (max-width : 750px) { #hnmain { width: 100%; min-width: 0; } body { padding: 0; margin: 0; width: 100%; } td { height: inherit !important; } .title, .comment { font-size: inherit; } span.pagetop { display: block; margin: 3px 5px; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal } Not perfect by any means but a…

Nope, your snippet proves nothing. The only font rule in it is `font-size: inherit`, which means "don't change the size." So your proof that HN resizes text is a line that resizes nothing. Since your snippet was so useless I had to go read the actual news.css to find out what rules are actually there. The result: body text goes from 12px to 13.3px. It's still small. The widely considered standard size of body copy is…

...it's still large enough to comfortably read without zooming in, which is not the case for Gruber's website.

Re: Sweet Jeebus, macOS 27 Golden Gate Removes the Dumb Icons from Menu Items

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MacOS 27 Beta seems to actually fix a lot of my complaints with Tahoe. I had cynically been believing Apple was simply going to let macOS rot and not fix these major annoyances. (Rather interestingly, menus still have icons if a menu option will simply launch another app, a specific folder that has an icon, or will perform a specific action like a window resize or category sort change that already has an icon you cou…

The poor quality of macOS Tahoe is by design as it is a "transition" release - a transition OS release is often like a beta quality release (of some feature) and often features a "break" (like loss of hardware support or EOL etc.). It is meant to frustrate the user, so that the "next" OS release (which fixes all the bugs of the "beta" features is more "appealing" and hyped (just read all the comments praising the new…

That seems to be more of an emergent phenomenon than conscious design decision to me to be honest - never assume malice when stupidity will suffice and all that.

Re: Sweet Jeebus, macOS 27 Golden Gate Removes the Dumb Icons from Menu Items

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Sometimes who can't be bothered to make the text on their website not extremely tiny when viewing on mobile shouldn't be writing multi-page rants on the other people's UI.

Isn’t he just serving up the desktop website? This goes along with the original intent of the benefits of the browser on the iPhone. It was able to run the normal Internet, not a separate “mobile” version of it. I found a simple double tap on the text sized it perfectly fine to read the text. What I find to be a UI problem are sites that force me into a mobile view, which often loses features, and which removes my ab…

Whatever the reason is the fact is: his website is unreadable on mobile.

Re: Sweet Jeebus, macOS 27 Golden Gate Removes the Dumb Icons from Menu Items

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Liquid Glass made my 13 mini consistently lock up and overheat. Multiple reboots every day. Ludicrously slow screen repaints. It only stopped with the latest version (26.5).

Anecdotal evidence is not proof, and as I’ve seen two people in this thread saying the performance of their iPhone 13s improved after iOS 26, I don’t see how you could concretely attribute any of your issues to Liquid Glass specifically (especially since you say it has been resolved with 26.5 despite Liquid Glass still being present in the os).

Not 13 but 13 mini, and it was fine until iOS 26. The symptoms lessened in 26.4 and now seem to be gone. So maybe the "mini" display factor was not sufficiently tested before iOS 26 was released and... it ran into snags (to put it diplomatically).

It was srsly crazy stuff. Screen freeze for a minute, for two minutes, while the battery gets hot enough to cook an egg.

A gazillion-dollar company not throughly testing their software - who'da thunk it ?

Re: Sweet Jeebus, macOS 27 Golden Gate Removes the Dumb Icons from Menu Items

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Windows Aero did work, or at least the Windows 7 incarnation of it.

It was still ugly, but it did kinda work because it only affected the window chrome, and it could be set to opaque with an easy-to-find setting. On macOS the checkbox for "Reduce transparency" is hidden away in the Accessibility settings panel which is the last place I'd look for configuring the desktop theme.

Many good settings are ‘hidden’ in Accessibility, notably to increase contrast, differentiate without colour, etc.

The wonderful ability to control music playback on your Mac? It’s in Accessibility on iOS.

Thinks like Reachability, Shake to Undo, and Require Attention for Face ID are all accessibility features.

Evidently, Accessibility is the new Advanced Settings for Apple, and anything goes in there. I’d argue many of these should be On by default.

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