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Mouseless – fast mouse control with the keyboard - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42396336 - Dec 2024 (120 comments)
Mouseless – keyboard-driven control of macOS/Linux/Windows
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Re: Mouseless – keyboard-driven control of macOS/Linux/Windows
#152I've tried to use software like this and it looks awesome but it wasn't ultimately the solve for me when it comes to ergonomics. I used a logitech mx mouse with the palm shape or whatever it's called and I realized that it stopped me from putting more of my hand on the desk, pin pointing the pressure of my hand onto the mouse instead of the desk. What helped dramatically was getting a smaller mouse without that thumb…
That's interesting! I have been using MX for years now (on my third one in 10 years I believe) and there's nothing else that I like. Could you explain what was the issue with the ergonomics? To me it's much better with its gesture features and such. Did you mean it as in wrist pain or?
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
these still exist on windows though? you just hold alt
Only works for like 20% of the menus though. I remember alt shortcuts reliably being on every single menu in early Windows (95? ME? XP?)
They died when people stopped using native toolkits and started making everything an electron app.
Economics be damned, if you're going to make a native app, use the OS provided toolkits.
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#154It's interesting, it's true that once you get used to the key combinations everything is more natural and faster, I always used browser shortcuts but never system shortcuts.
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#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
I didn’t say I didn’t like your opinion. Just responding in the same manner you treated someone else.
I push back against people criticising independent software for not being free because I believe it is deeply harmful for our industry. My initial reply didn't have much susbtance, but then neither did the comment I was replying to.
I’m confused because I don’t see anything about cost in the opinion you responded to.
Re: Mouseless – keyboard-driven control of macOS/Linux/Windows
#156Is it really faster though? I’ve built PoC of something similar and a test game to check how much faster it was to use keyboard. To my surprise mouse was consistently faster ( by a lot).
Yeah, I'm really not sold either on the speed aspect.
I'm using warpd which is a similar tool, and for me it's really not about speed, but more about the comfort of keeping my hands on the keyboard. Still using the mouse a lot but warpd is often handy.
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#157I guess it can solve the problem of navigating mouse for AI agents as keys are more objectively determinant.
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#159If you wanted to go in the other direction, you could achieve more productivity with faster mouse skills. The competitive FPS genre has spawned a bunch of aim training tools[0] to improve muscle memory. [0] https://www.3daimtrainer.com/
I'm astonished by how far those aim trainer tools go haha, and how popular they are. I discovered Aimlabs[1] recently, which seems like the most popular one, and it has 6 000 people playing right now.
For us keyboard geeks, there is monkeytype: https://monkeytype.com/
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#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure, but normal people care about aesthetics, and unsurprisingly big corporations cater to that.
So Lenovo puts trackpoints on their ThinkPads, which is ugly. Also, big corporations cater to aesthetics. Which is it?
I'm not even interested so much on laptop keyboards. I always work on my desktop setup with an external keyboard.
It's really hard to get an external keyboard with a track point. For laptops there are a lot of models to chose from, both used and new.