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Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Post by JoshuaDavid » Wed, Apr 15, 2026, 5:45 PM UTC

6thbit wrote: post #103

hayleox wrote: post #96

Trying to shut down a site by going after their domain names will always be a losing battle. As long as the link on their Wikipedia article keeps being updated, it'll remain easy to access. And it would be a pretty shocking attack on free speech if a U.S. court tried to order the Wikimedia Foundation to take that down; I suspect the public response would be similar to when the movie industry tried to get the AACS enc…

who updates wikipedia with the new domains? how do they know the new ones?

Would be fairly easy for them to offer an onion service on which they publish the current list of domains, as one option among many, many options for distributing small strings on the internet in an uncensorable way.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Post by MarsIronPI » Wed, Apr 15, 2026, 5:45 PM UTC

gib444 wrote: post #44

Ragnarork wrote: post #19

> In addition to the damages award, Rakoff entered a permanent worldwide injunction Because apparently U.S. courts and judges can do that. The more this is ignored by third-parties outside of the U.S., the better. I'm not against international cooperation regarding common rules (I'm rather for), but the current context certainly doesn't designate the U.S. as a responsible custodian/enforcer of such rules.

Immediately makes me think of the vitriol here on HN for the UK trying to enforce their age verification law outside their borders. Will the principle stand, or will it reveal that "USA is always right" is a common held belief

I've been against the UK trying to shove its regulations everywhere and I'm just as against the US doing it.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Post by testfrequency » Wed, Apr 15, 2026, 5:45 PM UTC

mentalgear wrote: post #115

OsrsNeedsf2P wrote: post #107

Ironic, since Spotify started by pirating music[0] [0] https://torrentfreak.com/spotifys-beta-used-pirate-mp3-files...

Same as Facebook: They got big by the Zuck sucking messages and content from MySpace - then Facebook afterwards lobbied to put laws in place to forbid this kind of 'interoperability' across platforms. Youtube started out 'allegedly' by members of their team uploading pirated hollywood movies (because they had no content), posing as users to fall under the "user-content" policy to make the company not liable. They are…

Anthropic and OpenAI have entered the chat

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Post by HDThoreaun » Wed, Apr 15, 2026, 5:46 PM UTC

TitaRusell wrote: post #112

I think AA should have stuck to book piracy. Nobody really cares about that.

Internet archive lost a massive case about book piracy. Anthropic had to pay I believe 1.4 billion because they engaged in some book piracy.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Post by MarsIronPI » Wed, Apr 15, 2026, 5:47 PM UTC

TomasBM wrote: post #124

stuffn wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Copying intellectual property is not piracy. This term was co-opted by big industries to insure the cash cattle continue to pay. Piracy has a very specific sting to it. This was a deliberate choice. We don't call burglary "piracy", yet if we relax the definition enough to include IP theft, it is also piracy. GabeN also had the wrong take in that it's a "supply problem" or whatever nonsense he said. GabeN is in fact a…

While I also find various approaches and reasons behind IP governance dumb, copying IP is piracy. In practice, copying some things is unlawful, regardless if we think it shouldn't be or if piracy once only referred to naval burglary. If you copy a book in a bookstore, or leave a perfect synthetic copy of a natural diamond you take, you'll likely be charged with something . Digitally, that's much a clearer legal charg…

I'm pretty sure piracy also includes threats to phisical security by the pirates. No such thing here. Let's not dilute the meaning of the word.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Post by nemomarx » Wed, Apr 15, 2026, 5:48 PM UTC

alex1138 wrote: post #142

stuffn wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Copying intellectual property is not piracy. This term was co-opted by big industries to insure the cash cattle continue to pay. Piracy has a very specific sting to it. This was a deliberate choice. We don't call burglary "piracy", yet if we relax the definition enough to include IP theft, it is also piracy. GabeN also had the wrong take in that it's a "supply problem" or whatever nonsense he said. GabeN is in fact a…

This isn't so relevant but Steam is actually very annoying to use. No easy settings to disable some of the overlays. I played Final Fantasy 7 and it was some gimped out graphics version, although SE (Square Enix) is also a kind of litigious company

Steam only adds one overlay (which is pretty easy to toggle off). if you have another graphic change or overlay it's the devs or publisher who added it

There's a per game toggle for their UI overlay basically and you just need to uncheck a box

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Post by gertop » Wed, Apr 15, 2026, 5:48 PM UTC

dangus wrote: post #119

kdheiwns wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please which countries, though? China? The EU? The US? All of them have conflicting interests and you can't please all three.

If you're bad at governing you can't please all three.

Please do tell us of that mythical leader who is so good at governing that no other country has ever had a grievance with them?

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Post by HDThoreaun » Wed, Apr 15, 2026, 5:49 PM UTC

Cider9986 wrote: post #71

mhitza wrote: post #4

Extra problems with the copyright industry for no benefit. Hope the owner's OpSec was good enough and we won't hear about their unmasking.

They have a 500k[1] reward for finding OPSEC failures, so I think they have the basics down. [1] https://software.annas-archive.gl/AnnaArchivist/annas-archiv...

No way Anna’s archive has $500k

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Post by _-_-__-_-_- » Wed, Apr 15, 2026, 5:52 PM UTC

Last week, I set-up a navidrome (docker compose) server after tagging my files with MusicBrainz and beets. I serve it over a private network (tailnet) using tailscale serve. It works on all my devices and on iOS with an app called Nautiline. Nautiline has a feature where it will switch between my local network address and my tailnet address seamlessly. It was so simple, I can't actually believe it works. It has CarPlay support and everything. A few clicks and I'm jamming and scrobbling to MusicBrainz. My next goal is to have a local LLM generate smart playlists. Everyone who wants off Spotify, or the other streaming music giants should do this.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Post by andai » Wed, Apr 15, 2026, 5:52 PM UTC

sebastiansm7 wrote: post #145

NDlurker wrote: post #137

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The YouTube thing doesn't sound right. They had a ¿10? minute video limit for a long time and it was really annoying to watch pirated stuff on there. Google Video had a lot of full movies before they bought YouTube and shut it down.

Still remember those times watching movies or documentaries by parts. Sometimes I started watching just to discover that part 8 was missing :( edit: in previous years some anime communities uploaded episodes to photo sites. They chunked the episodes in small JPGs with the video data encrypted. Just download hundreds of photos, join them and you got the episode :)

Wow, how did that work? Steganography?