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Anthropic, please make a new Slack

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Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

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This is just crazy. Lets ask the power company to build some trains for us. They transport electricity, they _must_ know about transporting people. They can power the lines themselves! If this was so easy, teams wouldn't suck, matrix would be everywhere, and discord would be replaced already by the furries (as much as stoat is trying).

If they sell a magic app building machine, its not crazy to ask them build an app with it, is it?

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Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

#152
Sounds like fivetran, that does data pipelines, wants a Slack API to get access to "the unfiltered, real-time stream of how your company actually operates" but slack keeps saying "No.".

Hey if I thought the "most important repository of text data" is inaccessible to my data pipeline company I'd likely also be shouting from the roofs like this CEO to get people to dethrone the king with a competitor whose principles aligned to my business.

Seems just like it could be anyone as long as they give an open API to access conversations.. Mentioning anthropic here just feels buzzwordy and in vogue enough to get traction in the blog post... seems to work for clicks, but will likely not give you a new king.

Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

#153

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Doesn't the conversation.history permission let a Slack bot extract all messages? https://docs.slack.dev/reference/methods/conversations.histo...

Last May they introduced a new rate limit for that endpoint of 1 request per minute.

you can work around it but i wont say how here because slack is definitely readin gthis

Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

#154
post #11

This is just crazy. Lets ask the power company to build some trains for us. They transport electricity, they _must_ know about transporting people. They can power the lines themselves! If this was so easy, teams wouldn't suck, matrix would be everywhere, and discord would be replaced already by the furries (as much as stoat is trying).

I mean, the idea itself (of having inside Slack) has crossed my mind multiple times, and I have successfully extract some data using AI from it and it's actually really useful.

But I agree, having Anthropic building this is like having DJI building planes because they know how to create things that fly.

Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

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Andreessen Horowitz was a major backer of Slack's predecessor, Tiny Speck, which was originally building a game called Glitch. When Glitch failed in 2012, founder Stewart Butterfield offered to return the remaining $6 million to investors. Ben Horowitz instead encouraged Butterfield to pivot and build out the internal communication tool the team had developed for themselves, which eventually became Slack. I saw an in…

No wonder the game failed, they were busy focusing on some internal chat tool

Precise argument here

Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

#157

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Zulip is not even close to Slack. It keeps crashing.

I lead the Zulip project and I'm not aware of any common crash issues with either our server or any of our apps. Can you share details on what you're experiencing with us? https://zulip.com/help/contact-support .

Thanks for your work on Zulip!

I have some feedback that's annoyingly non-specific.

I used Zulip a few years ago as a contractor. It seemed _fine_, but I didn't love it. Specifically, the UI felt sluggish and generally the experience was somewhat unpolished. Maybe things have changed, a lot happens in a couple years, but there you go

Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

#158

What a strange thing to post on a corporate CEO blog - proof that AI is making it too easy create things without asking why. How does it serve Fivetran to post open letter about why Slack sucks? This only happens if it's easy to write a couple bullet points and have Claude fill in the rest... If an LLM wasn't used they would have realized it wasn't worth a post during the process of writing it.

Not to mention the CEO in question maintains some of the worst customer relations in the data vertical. Fivetran is infamously bad to its users

I didn't even know this company before this article

Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

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Remember Web 2.0? If not, check Wikipedia. The idea was that everyone could create mashup web apps to do anything thanks to open standards and free APIs. Where did that dream go? Do you think private companies are going to give everyone their data and functionality for free? And what is so different about today’s dream of “agents” accessing private company data and functionality? It is a lovely dream that I would be…

I guess now we have the technology to use the UI layer as the API. Spin up a browser and impersonate the user, and then parse/OCR the data off the screen.

Re: Anthropic, please make a new Slack

#160
> We need Claude and Claude Code, with their skills and plugins, with their context, to be first-class participants in our company's Slack. But this problem can't be solved by a Slack integration because of another problem: data access.

Yes it can? We have agents in Slack as first class participants. They can even use Slack search.

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