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Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by c22 »

stavros wrote: post #54
lotsofpulp wrote: post #50

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What else could make life safer at a realistic cost for people outside of vehicles?

Where I live, the speed limit keeps getting reduced so the city can make money off of fines, especially because nobody follows speed limits that are ridiculously low for wide, straight roads where following the limit would make traffic ground to a halt.

This happened in my hometown. Arterial roads that were 40mph when I was a kid are posted at 25 today and they just passed legislation to make the automated speed cameras near school zones active 24/7.

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by Mordisquitos »

Izikiel43 wrote: post #94
FpUser wrote: post #66

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>"The real issue is prosecutors who refuse to incarcerate repeat offenders" Sure. US prosecutors are so lenient that the US is the capital of incarceration

Depends a lot on the city/state. Check super blue cities like Seattle or San Francisco, and the people there complain that the justice system doesn't work as repeat offenders are let go, for one reason or another. The big incarceration states are most likely deep red states.

The incarceration rate of every single US state is higher than that of every country in the European continent except Belarus, Russia and Turkey. Each state's incarceration rate is also higher than that of every country in the OECD (a club of mostly rich countries) except Chile, Costa Rica and Turkey.

Of the exceptions I have listed, Turkey has the highest incarceration rate of 366 per 100k. Even so, it is still lower than that of 41 states, falling between Hawaii (367) and Connecticut (326).

Source: https://www.prisonpolicy.org/global/2024.html

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by c22 »

cheonn638 wrote: post #38
kdogkshd wrote: post #26

If you're in the bay area, on Monday at 6:30 there's a mountain view city council meeting where flock is on the agenda. If this surveillance bothers you, show up!!

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What bothered you to make this comment?

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by Symbiote »

redwall_hp wrote: post #62
lotsofpulp wrote: post #50

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What else could make life safer at a realistic cost for people outside of vehicles?

Urban planning that separates pedestrians and vehicles. Roads that are narrow in places where a lower speed is desirable. Heavy taxation on vehicles with more mass and lower visibility. Actual licensing standards other than driving down a couple of city streets and parking. More crossings, with lights or bridges, instead of long four-lane arterial roads with nowhere to safely cross.

We have most of that in , and the statistics show it makes a big difference compared to the USA, but drivers still exceed the speed limit, run through red lights etc and cause injuries and death to pedestrians and cyclists.

Removing automatic enforcement of speed limits would not improve the situation.

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by bigfatkitten »

zoklet-enjoyer wrote: post #76
staringforward wrote: post #63

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> Might be time to get a paintball gun Just wait until you find out that paintball guns are considered firearms are require licensing in the aforementioned region.

I played paintball in Australia and I just had to sign a normal waiver about them not being responsible for injuries

If you actually purchased one yourself in Queensland, you would need a Cat A firearms license, genuine reason, permit to acquire, safe storage etc as for a firearm.

NSW used to be similar, but a few years ago the state government had a rare moment of common sense and did away with most of that pointless bullshit.

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by salawat »

michaelmrose wrote: post #120
martin-t wrote: post #33

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> Why wouldn’t you advocate it? Because advocating things which are moral/ethical but illegal is often against the TOS :( We need laws which are explicitly based on moral principles. Barring that, we should at least have laws which treat sufficiently large platforms as utilities and forbid them from performing censorship without due process.

You think we should give people being moderated on a forum due process? How would we ever run forums if every contentious and necessary moderation action could lead to a 5k-50k legal bill.

...How can we run a government when every contentious and necessary moderation leads to a 5k-50k legal bill?

Oh wait... Maybe that's the problem.

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by bob1029 »

andwur wrote: post #97
terminalshort wrote: post #89

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This will never be a thing in America. Good luck putting the camera on a pole higher than a redneck can shoot a rifle.

Sounds like a new remit for the NRO. Park a billion dollar satellite over an area to keep an eye out for petty vandalism. Then the sheriffs office can team up with Space Force: papers will be served immediately by LEO MIRV deployment, which may also count as execution depending on visibility and aim on the day. /s - but it wouldn't surprise me at the rate things are going.

We've already got this and it's maybe more capable than you'd think.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARGUS-IS

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by mentalgear »

andwur wrote: post #97
terminalshort wrote: post #89

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This will never be a thing in America. Good luck putting the camera on a pole higher than a redneck can shoot a rifle.

Sounds like a new remit for the NRO. Park a billion dollar satellite over an area to keep an eye out for petty vandalism. Then the sheriffs office can team up with Space Force: papers will be served immediately by LEO MIRV deployment, which may also count as execution depending on visibility and aim on the day. /s - but it wouldn't surprise me at the rate things are going.

I just have to say: this whole thread is great absurd comedy - I don't think I have laughed at something on HN that much before :).

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by vkou »

terminalshort wrote: post #89
bigiain wrote: post #45

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Where I am (Sydney Australia) we have fixed speed cameras that automatically create speeding fines to drivers going too fast (well, technically the registered owner of the vehicle via ANPR). They eventually had to equip pretty much every speed camera with a speed camera camera, usually on a much higher pole to make vandalism more difficult.

This will never be a thing in America. Good luck putting the camera on a pole higher than a redneck can shoot a rifle.

1. Shooting rifles in an urban area sounds like a great way to go to prison.

2. As of 2026, most rednecks seem to be all for the police state. Don't expect them to come save you.

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