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Discord Alternatives, Ranked

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Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

#151

Discord became popular because it was free group/team voice chat. Mumble, Ventrilo, Teamspeak all needed servers/clients, paid hosting etc. Discord is text chat (with history) + voice chat in one place. If you want an alternative it needs to do this both first and foremost. People saying IRC are trolling or never used Discord.

It's also images, videos and message boards.

And screen sharing, like actually good screen sharing unlike Microsoft teams That is a huge feature for many people

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

#152
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I don't understand the appeal of any of those, least of all Discord itself. It's unsearcheable, focused on immediacy, confusing and full of blinking things. The old Reddit interface (or current HN one!) are unsurpassed IMHO.

That's because you're not in the target market. And I guess not interested in the space. Discord's key value proposition is that it's a trusted zero friction voice chat with a lot of features. The workflow that made it huge: organizer creates a server for a game, creates a short link for a voice channel. The organizer then goes to play their game, shares the short link with their group. The members click the link, wr…

I agree with the previous commenter - I hate Discord for all the same reasons. But you said: "That's because you're not in the target market. And I guess not interested in the space." and this is the bit that frustrates me... I must be the target market because several services I use try to get you to use Discord for support, and some will only provide support via Discord.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

#153

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The ironic part is that those software description files are meaningless. AstraChat claims Advanced in all categories, but it's a proprietary commercial software, so nobody ran any kind of test suite to verify this. That software list, how it's done and how it's ranked is literally confirming my initial point of critique :D Last time I tried out several chat clients, most of them were alpha software, had lots of bugs…

> I just wish there was some kind of ACID test suite for XMPP or something else to reproducibly validate spec compliance. Maybe a test server or similar as a reference implementation. This way client or server maintainers would have to run their programs against the official test server to increase their compliance stats. This is exactly what the Compliance Suits are for, and the XMPP Software Fundation is taking car…

My point is about why clients like AstraChat can be listed with "Advanced" in the overview, but then in the details page it has nothing. See https://xmpp.org/software/astrachat-xmpp-client/

This should not be allowed.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

#154

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You might be interested in https://kloak.app I believe. It's a privacy-first alternative. It's still in early alpha days, but have most of the things set up. Oh, and we’ve got voice channels with screen sharing in beta too.

How do you plan on funding it? Also, the landing page mentions "You own your community data" but it just looks like you own it and allow us to access it? Seems to me you're just re-building discord.

"Messages are stored on our servers and are technically accessible at the database level , we won't pretend otherwise. Kloak doesn't require email, phone, or personal info to create an account, your identity isn't tied to your messages the way it would be on other platforms.

Our goal is to implement end-to-end encryption for DMs so that even we can't read message content. But we're not there yet, since after all we need to make sure the platform is safe and not to shield illegal content being sent."

This is a message from one of their founders I found while exploring the app.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

#155

Ironically, Signal actually ranks a -1 for privacy in this use. Presumably you're already using Signal and getting mainstream contacts to start using it too. You probably have a basic profile that at least includes your real name, and might also have your picture. Maybe you're even one of the 7 people in the world that use the Stories feature in it. Well good news, now all of that is also unconditionally available to…

I dislike Signal as I need to identify myself through info that is protected. Like a phone number for example.

Not a privacy app in my opinion. Sure, might be good for some use cases... but overall there are better solutions.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

#156

One that didn't make the list that I'm excited for is Root. It's come a long way in a short time and already has quite a bit of the features Discord has. The apps and bots are also being set up to be way more powerful than Discord as well. https://www.rootapp.com/

Seemed as closed as Discord ?

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

#157
post #26

Zulip actually looks pretty good if they made it a little sexier.

We've been using it successfully for a long time too. Real nice bunch of fellas. They did remove mobile notifications without a subscription recently and the price is quite high ONLY for notifications. I do not fault them for doing it but it made recommending them a tiny bit more difficult. The other major issues IMO are the super basic mobile client and lack of any kind of native voice/video chat. You get a button that provides a link to a chat service of your choice. For example you pick a Jitsi Meet instance and Zulip gives you button to create and share the url easily. That's it. I wish there were something a little better integrated.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

#159
post #109

Ironically, Signal actually ranks a -1 for privacy in this use. Presumably you're already using Signal and getting mainstream contacts to start using it too. You probably have a basic profile that at least includes your real name, and might also have your picture. Maybe you're even one of the 7 people in the world that use the Stories feature in it. Well good news, now all of that is also unconditionally available to…

How could Signal be considered privacy-conscious ? The first thing they do is ask for your phone number.

Because they have an huge PR campaign and a lot of money to invest in keeping their place.

Re: Discord Alternatives, Ranked

#160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Signal has profiles nowadays that can be used to connect with people without sharing phone numbers. The latter are only used for signup and discarded immediately after.

I don't know how Signal works and I never used it, but could I signup with a phone number and keep using it with another number, on the same phone?

Yes. The phone number is just for activation, once activated, you can swap the SIM and carry on. Or have the SIM that receives the activation text in another phone, or be virtual, or whatever.
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