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Who cares. That is all irrelevant. I want to know if they raised VC money or not. Either way at least it isn't anything about AI and has something to do with hard cryptography.
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I'm sure this company is more focused on the enterprise angle, but I wonder if the buildout of support for remote attestation could eventually resolve the Linux gaming vs. anti-cheat stalemate. At least for those willing to use a "blessed" kernel provided by Valve or whoever.
Road to hell is paved with good intentions. Somebody will use it and eventually force it if it exists and I don't think gaming especially those requiring anti-cheat is worth that risk. If that means linux will not be able to overtake window's market share, that's ok. At-least the year of the linux memes will still be funny.
That'd be too bad. Sometimes, I feel like the general public doesn't deserve general purpose computing.
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After over a decade of Debian, when I upgraded my PC, I tried every big systemd-based distro, including opensuse, which I wholly loathed. I finally decided on Void and feel at home as I did 20+ years ago when I began. There are serious problems with the systemd paradigm, most of which I couldn't argue for or against. But at least in Void, I can remove network-manger altogether, use cron as I always have, and generall…
How is systemd stopping you use cron?
Not stopping. Just clashing with that and a hundred other things that I never wanted managed by one guy. Systemd.timer, systemd.service, yes, trivial, but I don't catalog every thing that bothers me about systemd - I just stay away from it. There are plenty of better examples. So where ever I wrote 'stop', it should read hinder.
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I am fairly confident that this company is going to assure corporations that their own code is running on their own computers (ie - to secure datacenter workloads), to allow _you_ (or auditors) to assure that only _your_ asserted code is also running on their rented computers (to secure cloud workloads), or to assure that the code running on _their_ computers is what they say it is, which is actually pretty cool sinc…
How can you be "pretty sure" they're going to develop precisely the technology needed to implement DRM but also will never use or allow it to be used by anybody but the lawful owners of the hardware? You can't. It's like designing new kinds of nerve gas, "quite sure" that it will only ever be in the hands of good guys who aren't going to hurt people with it. That's powerful naïveté. Once you make it, you can't contro…
The technology needed to implement DRM has been there for 20+ years and has already evolved in the space where it makes sense from an "evil" standpoint (if you're on that particular side of the fence - Android client attestation), so someone implementing the flip side that might actually be useful doesn't particularly bother me. I remember the 1990s "cryptography is the weapon of evil" arguments too - it's funny how the tables have turned, but I still believe that in general these useful technologies can help people overall.
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> Sounds like kernel mode DRM or some similarly unwanted bullshit. Look, I hate systemd just as much as the next guy - but how are you getting "DRM" out of this?
Remote attestation is literally a form of DRM
> Remote attestation is literally a form of DRM
Let's say I accept this statement.
What makes you think trusted boot == remote attestation?
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half of the founders of this thing come from Microsoft. I suppose this makes the answer to your question obvious.
My thoughts exactly. We're probably witnessing the beginning of the end of linux users being able to run their own kernels. Soon: - your bank won't let you log in from an "insecure" device. - you won't be able to play videos on an "insecure" device. - you won't be able to play video games on an "insecure" device. And so on, and so forth.
Unfortunately the parent commenter is completely right.
The attestation portion of those systems is happening on locked down devices, and if you gain ownership of the devices they no longer attest themselves.
This is the curse of the duopoly of iOS and Android.
BankID in Sweden will only run with one of these devices, they used to offer a card system but getting one seems to be impossible these days. So you're really stuck with a mobile device as your primary means of identification for banking and such.
There's a reason that general purpose computers are locked to 720p on Netflix and Disney+; yet AppleTV's are not.
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that's a silver lining the anti-user attestation will at least be full of security holes, and likely won't work at all
Dunno about the others but Pottering has proven himself to deliver software against the grain.
You think?
It took us nearly a decade and a half to unfuck the pulseaudio situation and finally arrive at a simple solution (pipewire).
SystemD has a lot more people refining it down but a clean (under the hood) implementation probably won't be witnessed in my lifetime.
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Hi Daan, Thanks for the answer. Let me ask you something close with a more blunt angle: Considering most of the tech is already present and shipping in the current systemd, what prevents our systems to become a immutable monolith like macOS or current Android with the flick of a switch? Or a more grave scenario: What prevents Microsoft from mandating removal of enrollment permissions for user keychains and Secure Boo…
Nothing, but openbsd is amazing and just works. Anyone still using Linux on the desktop in 2026 should switch.
I like the GPL for the kernel, so I wouldn't switch.
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That's a proxy metric for what we really care about: acceptance of differences, tolerance of others, diversity of perspectives, etc. In principle, you can achieve these goals with a team whose members are all one ethnicity and gender; it's just that a fair selection process won't produce such a team often. And, as it turns out, optimising for the "people who look different" proxy metric doesn't do a terrible job of optimising for the true metric, provided the "cultural fit"-type selection effects are weak enough.
The systemd crowd are perhaps worse than GNOME, as regards "my way or the highway", and designing systems that are fundamentally inadequate for the general use-case. I don't think ethnicity or gender diversity quotas would substantially improve their decision-making: all it would really achieve is to make it harder to spot the homogeneity in a photograph. A truly diverse team wouldn't make the decisions they make.