At some point customer service died. Businesses of seem to no longer be interested in dealing with customers. Good customers come in all shapes and sizes, and often don't exactly fit a cookie cutter. It's frustrating to see businesses just cut and run the moment something becomes a problem that needs more than a series of pre-scripted responses to be resolved.
On one hand, this makes me incredibly sad. It means that all of us, as consumers, agreed we'd rather save a buck than get acceptable service. On the other hand, as someone who did customer service in my younger years, 95% of calls were PEBKAC, so it's essentially a giant money drain for things of no real concern to you as a company. I've often wondered how successful it would be to charge $3 or $5 per call, refunding…
A change of address led to our Wise accounts being shut down
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Re: A change of address led to our Wise accounts being shut down
#152Back in early 2022, a little after the war started, TransferWise blocked transfer (i.e. donation) to the account run by the National Bank of Ukraine for support of the Ukrainian military. I have and never will forgive them for this.
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Re: A change of address led to our Wise accounts being shut down
#153At some point customer service died. Businesses of seem to no longer be interested in dealing with customers. Good customers come in all shapes and sizes, and often don't exactly fit a cookie cutter. It's frustrating to see businesses just cut and run the moment something becomes a problem that needs more than a series of pre-scripted responses to be resolved.
Wise customer service is amazingly good though. I'd much prefer to use a company that spends 100% of the time on 80% of customers than one that spends 80% of it's time on 20% of the customers OP can't even provide proof from the tax office of being at that address, it's an angry rant rather than the whole picture. Would you go into business with him with nothing but a phone bill as proof?
I couldn't log on, got the problem escalated, then they got me to create a logged session in their app, and from that they diagnosed the problem was due to larger text on a smaller screen causing their app to crash. I've rarely had technical faults diagnosed and fixed by any company.
Re: A change of address led to our Wise accounts being shut down
#154> a dropdown list of acceptable documents: a lease agreement, rates notice, tax document, utilities bill, or telecommunications bill. It’s baffling to me that these types of (usually unsigned in both the electronic and the ink way, not that the latter would prove anything in a scan) PDFs are still somehow the gold standard for “proofs” of address.
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#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
In countries where you do have e.g. tax numbers associated with addresses no government agency is going to give it to a random private company. I've lived in many countries both in the EU and outside of it and I can think of only a few countries where you actually could do something better than a pdf — and they use digital signatures.
> In countries where you do have e.g. tax numbers associated with addresses no government agency is going to give it to a random private company. Why not? In my country the company registry is public, anyone can pay a small fee to get an official certificate of a company's address and company number.
Re: A change of address led to our Wise accounts being shut down
#156At some point customer service died. Businesses of seem to no longer be interested in dealing with customers. Good customers come in all shapes and sizes, and often don't exactly fit a cookie cutter. It's frustrating to see businesses just cut and run the moment something becomes a problem that needs more than a series of pre-scripted responses to be resolved.
Wise customer service is amazingly good though. I'd much prefer to use a company that spends 100% of the time on 80% of customers than one that spends 80% of it's time on 20% of the customers OP can't even provide proof from the tax office of being at that address, it's an angry rant rather than the whole picture. Would you go into business with him with nothing but a phone bill as proof?
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#157I'm not sure if using Wise actually saves money otherwise - but it mostly works fine.
The one technical issue I've hit in the US was a bowser asking for my ZIP code which it couldn't verify so I couldn't use that gas station.
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#158Re: A change of address led to our Wise accounts being shut down
#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wise customer service is amazingly good though. I'd much prefer to use a company that spends 100% of the time on 80% of customers than one that spends 80% of it's time on 20% of the customers OP can't even provide proof from the tax office of being at that address, it's an angry rant rather than the whole picture. Would you go into business with him with nothing but a phone bill as proof?
I've had good interactions with Wise twice. I couldn't log on, got the problem escalated, then they got me to create a logged session in their app, and from that they diagnosed the problem was due to larger text on a smaller screen causing their app to crash. I've rarely had technical faults diagnosed and fixed by any company.
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#160Nowhere in this blog does it mention what the business actually does, which is always a red flag. I've seen plenty of stripe bashing posts on HN that end up with the business being in newsletter scams or adult content.
Based on the DNS records, and the Companies Office website, the blogger owns several companies. https://www.vetta.online/ https://aorangieftpos.nz/ https://www.reliance.net.nz/ Business networking, local ISP, card payment solutions, basically. Given the blog posts about cPanel and Outlook, it tracks. I note that the blogger lives in a small town in the South Island, so likely is focused on the local market.