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Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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Most of my hard science contacts (physics, biology etc) from my days in student government have moved to Bluesky. Newer academics seem to be starting out there and skipping Twitter entirely.

If you have heard of Metcalfe's Law, you'll understand why this is not good for Twitter long term.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalfe's_law

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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What do you mean? Activism is an essential part of science but maybe I’m misunderstanding your use of “activist.”

I feel like scientists should be explaining to us how the world is, and then other people should use those explanations to try and improve it. Right now I feel like there are a scientists who would hide or discard results if they contradicted their advocacy beliefs,which is a dangerous place to be imo.

That's how it works. I think people for some reason don't understand policy making. The CDC conducts research and studies, pulls data, performs analysis, and then provides guidance based on it.

It enacts no rules, laws, or regulations. That's done by policy makers who can listen to or ignore the guidance and data from the CDC at their discretion.

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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I don't understand how Bluesky is going to continue to exist past 2026, based on the sharply declining usage, their headcount, and the amount of funding they've taken. It has apparent value propositions past the social network, but none of those use cases are visibly taking off and none of them appear to be monetizable. The social network itself is what will be evaluated when they go out for more funding. And I don't…

> I don't understand how Bluesky is going going to continue to exist past 2026, based on the sharply declining usage, their headcount, and the amount of funding they've taken.

Do you have any data to back this up?

Also famously twitter is losing value and advertisers and users still it’s not stopped twitter from existing

Regarding engagement doesn’t twitter have lot more low quality engagement vs Bkuesky

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

#154

X still appears above the fold in a special section on Google with custom previews. Eg. searching 'Anthony Albanese Bluesky' for Australia's leader has a link to X, with custom integrated previews, above the Bluesky link of the PM despite the search explicitly stating Bluesky and despite the account posting to Bluesky. It's hard for anyone to move over since the lack of engagement is rigged like this.

We need the "scientists find X less useful" study for Google.

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

#155

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What do you mean? Activism is an essential part of science but maybe I’m misunderstanding your use of “activist.”

> ...an essential part... Why? Which of these other jobs would you call "Activism" an essential part of: - Fire fighter - Elementary school teacher - Auto mechanic - ER nurse - Professor of Medieval History

Auto mechanic: Consumer advocacy, business regulation, labor issues, safety, etc.

Professor of Medieval history: Lots of political discourse makes claims about history or things like "the dark ages" that turn out to be mis-interpretations or false. Note that I have a friend in that field who often writes gentle corrections to false historical claims in online discourse.

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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The “I am an expert, so listen to me drone about some political topic that’s vaguely related to my expertise” has been a thing for years now. And it’s usually some controversial thing that doesn’t have to do with science anyway. In general, it makes scientists look really naive and makes them lose credibility when they talk about actual science.

So it's "political" to disagree about Tylenol causing autism, or injecting disinfectant curing Covid?

You are making a classic motte and bailey argument.

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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X is not politically neutral, Elon openly talks about recalibrating Grok whenever it says something too liberal like recent discussions about gun violence. Scientists should embrace decentralization and use Mastodon in my opinion. Bluesky will meet the same fate as Twitter and X one day

On a side note, I still can't get used to how wanting to restrict access to guns is considered a "liberal" stance.

Two-party system only offers two buckets to put issues in.

Re: Scientists say X has lost its professional edge and Bluesky is taking its place

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Why don't scientists publish anonymously? We already have double-blind peer review. This seems like such an obvious idea, there must be some issue. Authors can still get reputation, recognition, and compensation for their papers, without people knowing who wrote what paper, via public/private keys and blockchain. Every time an author publishes a paper, they generate a new address and attach the public key to it. Judg…

1. It's a very small community and peer review is even hard. Think about it this way: what do you think two physicist colleagues talk about at a conference? How do you know who to talk to to collaborate on a problem? (Yes, people still talk voice about problems.) 2. Labs are specialized. You choose a lab to work at based on what they're working on. How are you going to choose where to spend your Ph.D or postdoc if yo…

Ok, then scientists can form groups where they know each other, but publish anonymously outside those groups.

It doesn't solve all the issues, but it at least allows scientists to be "activists" (really just share their opinions like any other human) without affecting their credibility. Even if they're doxxed, they can eventually regain anonymity, because eventually other scientists with different views will publish papers on the same subject, and people can only distinguish who published what by its content.

Right now, scientists can share their opinions anonymously. This works well enough, except they can't share them in-person except to others they trust; and if they get doxxed, they can't remove their old posts from the name on their papers.

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