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Snapdragon X2 Elite ARM Laptop CPU

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Re: Snapdragon X2 Elite ARM Laptop CPU

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Post by justincormack »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #81
tomComb wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought “Android drivers” were Linux drivers?

I think the situation is: Old situation: "Android drivers" are technically Linux drivers in that they are drivers which are built for a specific, usually ancient, version of Linux with no effort to upstream, minimal effort to rebase against newer kernels, and such poor quality that there's a reason they're not upstreamed. New situation: "Android drivers" are largely moved to userspace, which does have the benefit of…

Old Android also had a bunch of weird kernel drivers that were not upstream; they mostly are now so Android kernel is converging on Linux finally.

Re: Snapdragon X2 Elite ARM Laptop CPU

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Post by Derbasti »

jasoneckert wrote: post #21
typpilol wrote: post #17

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How's the compatibility? Are there any apps that don't work that are critical?

Have I had any app compatibility issues? To quote Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 3, Line 87: "No." The Prism binary emulation for x86 apps that don't have an ARM equivalent has been stellar with near-native performance (better than Rosetta in macOS). And I've tried some really obscure stuff!

Same here. I've not had any issues with my Surface Pro 11.

Re: Snapdragon X2 Elite ARM Laptop CPU

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Post by happymellon »

piskov wrote: post #47
alphabettsy wrote: post #46

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Yet the apps top the App Store charts. Considering that these are not upgradable I think the specs are relevant. Just as I thought Apple shipping systems with 8 GB minimums was not good future proofing.

What apps with local llm top app store charts?

They asked ChatGPT.

Re: Snapdragon X2 Elite ARM Laptop CPU

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Post by canucker2016 »

wmf wrote: post #36
sciencesama wrote: post #28

how much ram can these support ?

Supposedly 128 GB although I doubt vendors will ship that much.

the snapdragon x2 elite extreme (X2E-96-100) SoC supports "128GB+" but qualcomm hasn't specified what the max limit is. this soc also has higher memory bandwidth (228GB/s over 192-bit bus) than the x2 elite.

also see https://wccftech.com/snapdragon-x2-elite-extreme-die-package...

Re: Snapdragon X2 Elite ARM Laptop CPU

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Post by [deleted] »

OptionOfT wrote: post #99
jasoneckert wrote: post #8

As someone who has used the Snapdragon X Elite (12 core Oryon) Dev Kit as a daily driver for the past year, I find this exciting. The X Elite performance still blows my mind today - so the new X2 Elite with 18 cores is likely going to be even more impressive from a performance perspective! I can't speak to the battery life, however, since it is dismal on my Dev Kit ;-)

Wait, you got one of those Dev kits? How? I thought they were all cancelled. Edit: apparently they did end up shipping.

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Re: Snapdragon X2 Elite ARM Laptop CPU

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Post by StopDisinfo910 »

leidenfrost wrote: post #104
kwanbix wrote: post #41

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Because Apple controls verything vs Windows/Linux world where hundres (thouthands?) of OEM create things?

I agree with you on the Windows side. Linux is different. Decades of being tied to x86 made the OS way more coupled with the processor family than one might think. Decades of bugfixes, optimizations and workarounds were made assuming a standard BIOS and ACPI standards. Specially on the desktop side. That, and the fact that SoC vendors are decades behind on driver quality. They remind me of the NDiswrapper era. Also,…

Linux runs perfectly on MIPS, Power, Sparc, obviously ARM - cue the millions of phone running Linux today, RiscV, and at least a dozen other architectures with little to no user. It's absolutely not tied to x86.

Re: Snapdragon X2 Elite ARM Laptop CPU

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Post by menaerus »

timschmidt wrote: post #144
menaerus wrote: post #130

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It's a transpiler that takes the x86-64 binary assembly and spits out the aarch64 assembly only on the first run AFAIK. This is then cached on storage for consecutive runs.

Apple also implemented x86 memory semantics for aarch64 to allow for simpler translation and faster execution.

In HW?

Re: Snapdragon X2 Elite ARM Laptop CPU

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Post by robertoandred »

tangotaylor wrote: post #84

We’ve been using X Elite Snapdragon laptops (Thinkpad T14s and Yoga Slim running Ubuntu’s concept images) to build large amounts of ARM software without the need for cross-compiling. The hardware peripheral support isn’t 100% yet (good enough) but I’ve been impressed with the performance. ARM seems to be popular in the server space and it’s nice to see it trickling down to the PC market.

Trickling? Apple’s been on ARM for five years with great results.
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