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At 17, Hannah Cairo solved a major math mystery

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Re: At 17, Hannah Cairo solved a major math mystery

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But I don't know that from the proposed re-titling of the article. The importance of the conjecture is more salient for the general reader than the (uninformative) names of the people who conjectured in the first place.

It's loosely explained deep down in the article.

...which is not the HN title, so parent's point still stands

Re: At 17, Hannah Cairo solved a major math mystery

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“There was this inescapable sameness, in a way. No matter what I did, I was in the same place doing mostly the same things,” she said. “I was very isolated, and nothing I could do could really change that. I’d wake up on certain days and realize, I’m just older.” I finally have something in common with a math prodigy.

Thank God she found math instead of Factorio.

the factory must grow ;-)

Re: At 17, Hannah Cairo solved a major math mystery

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“There was this inescapable sameness, in a way. No matter what I did, I was in the same place doing mostly the same things,” she said. “I was very isolated, and nothing I could do could really change that. I’d wake up on certain days and realize, I’m just older.” I finally have something in common with a math prodigy.

Loneliness is maththematician best friend.

Straight to jail, right away

>A few more months in prison and I would have proved all the great theorems of the time.

André Weil

Re: At 17, Hannah Cairo solved a major math mystery

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- moved between countries or first/second gen immigrant? check - home schooled? check This on top of her extraordinary talent and hard work. Institutional education truly is a great leveler, at both the top and bottom.

I wonder what would have happened if she said "mom, dad, I want to be a fashion designer/chef/interior decorator." Undoubtedly, they would have supported her ambition and individuality..of course.

Re: At 17, Hannah Cairo solved a major math mystery

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post #112

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Maybe hot take… I can see the point of sameness in homeschooling, but compared to traditional education? I’m not sure how much flexibility one would have to teach oneself calculus by 11 or the equivalent of an undergrad in math by 14! That flexibility must be found in something non-traditional! I’m no prodigy at all whatsoever but school was mostly dull and filled with teenager drama! Nobody knew what Linux was, care…

its so much better nowadays. I"m 40 now and I'm low key jelous of kids today. Today if you want to learn to code, you have freecode camp and chatgpt to ask questions. Math? there's mathacademy and khanacademy. There are so many options now for learning stuff that we didn't have

Very difficult to take advantage of if you don't have good control over your brain.

I am learning bit and pieces on how to do this but it's a long and uncertain process. Conflict monitoring is willpower is a new concept to me but it gave me a framework on how to improve my discipline over time.

Re: At 17, Hannah Cairo solved a major math mystery

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post #115

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Kaczynski was really not on the same level. By several orders of magnitude.

It's generally well documented that Kacynski was a highly talented mathematician.

... and one who was younger than the other students when he was at university.

Re: At 17, Hannah Cairo solved a major math mystery

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post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Loneliness is maththematician best friend.

Straight to jail, right away >A few more months in prison and I would have proved all the great theorems of the time. André Weil

Who is he ?

Re: At 17, Hannah Cairo solved a major math mystery

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>Cairo kept reading and thinking. Eventually, she found a way to construct a strange, complicated function out of waves whose frequencies all lay on a curved surface — the type of surface the conjecture required. Usually, when you add these kinds of waves together, they interfere, canceling each other out in some places and reinforcing each other elsewhere.

Rather than speaking about her age or the vague notion of talent, I'd be much more interested in why the rest of the academia was unable to replicate her methods in 40 years or so. From her own admission, it was throwing different ideas and approaches until she saw a disprecancy that ultimately disproved the theorem. There should be many people far more experienced who do have the knowledge to do this, but why did they not? This dosen't look like a intuitive jump, seems more like building a test case that fully stressed the theorem.

Re: At 17, Hannah Cairo solved a major math mystery

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post #110

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Please don't do this here.

Do what exactly? The parent asked why there’s so many photos of her staring into the distance. Whats your theory on why there’s so many photos?

As far as I can tell, some fraction of Quanta articles are as much a profile of the person as an account of the work, so they send out a photographer. The results are similar regardless of gender. Here are similar treatments given to dudes in the past ~year, for example [1, 2, 3].

[1] https://www.quantamagazine.org/mathematical-thinking-isnt-wh...

[2] https://www.quantamagazine.org/perplexing-the-web-one-probab...

[3] https://www.quantamagazine.org/how-failure-has-made-mathemat...

Re: At 17, Hannah Cairo solved a major math mystery

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post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Straight to jail, right away >A few more months in prison and I would have proved all the great theorems of the time. André Weil

Who is he ?

Boubarki group founding member, medal Fields recipient, brother of Simone Weil
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