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Re: Brave blocks Microsoft Recall by default

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> The snapshots are stored and processed locally. Even if that's the design, it's a massive new attack surface for malware to try to exfiltrate.

Then don't turn it on?

Better yet, how about not making visual keylogger code part of the OS to begin with.

I’d be pretty nervous about running Windows with this even able to be enabled.

No way the benefit:risk ratio makes the slightest sense in this case.

Re: Brave blocks Microsoft Recall by default

#152

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Well for those who are stuck with Windows because of some applications or simply because of familiarity. My suggestion is to stay on an older release as long as possible. If that isn't possible I would recommend keeping the computer turned off most of the time and only briefly using it for your purpose and try to keep from doing anything embarrassing or personal too much. Another thing that might help is calling up y…

I also recommend https://github.com/LeDragoX/Win-Debloat-Tools to debloat your Windows 10-11. Familiarity is not really a good reason against Linux, however. Just install a Linux distro that comes close in looks. What are these Linux distributions these days? Pop OS? Elementary OS? Most people are only using their browsers anyway.

Familiarity is shorthand for time and energy. Neither of them are infinite.

Ironically your second sentence is an example of the impact on time and energy the switch will have: someone who just decided to switch from windows to linux will have to take the time and spend the energy to chose between the dozen of linux distributions before any practical consideration.

Re: Brave blocks Microsoft Recall by default

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Right, but thanks to Proton that’s just not relevant? Blue Prince, Clair Obscure, Lost Records, The Alters, Doom: The Dark Ages, Oblivion Remastered, South of Midnight… all run just fine on Steam on linux.

If you have older hardware and play older games, Proton often doesn't run those as well as windows on the same hardware. On my laptop (win10/ubuntu dual boot, about 6 years old) windows is significantly faster in every game I have tried. I also had to do a futzy ad-hoc binary search to find a proton version that works with one game (either fallout 3 or fallout new vegas, can't remember which). And proton generally cr…

As a counterpoint; I've primarily played games that are old or jank as hell to setup in general. Septerra Core, Nox, Diablo 2, various assortments of RPG Maker games across different engines. They all worked perfectly fine and arguably were easier to setup on a modern machine than trying to figure out how to get them working on Windows.

The only game that didn't work out of the box for me was Path of Exile 2.

Re: Brave blocks Microsoft Recall by default

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Linux isn't a maintenance hobby unto itself if you don't make it one. After the initial migration struggles (which you'll get on MacOS too), if you choose a boring distro like Debian, the maintenance burden is similar to Windows. Lots of Linux users love customizing the crap out of their stuff, so it becomes one, but it isn't inherently like that if you keep your configuration somewhat close to stock on whatever dist…

Are you seriously suggesting someone new to Linux use Debian, one of the most annoying distros to set up for desktop use? I used Linux Mint for about a year and gave up because everything was constantly breaking and the software was a direct downgrade from MacOS in terms of usability and prevalence. Oh, and new hardware usually doesn't even work on Linux. Linux is like Communism, sounds great in theory but in reality…

What's so hard about debian to set up?

Re: Brave blocks Microsoft Recall by default

#155

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It isn't until you need something like Microsoft Office or Photoshop. At which point you're either using FOSS alternatives (and dealing with it's incompatibilities with the proprietary file formats) or dealing with a very fragile wine setup. If you don't need that kind of thing then Linux is indeed pretty good these days. But especially in a business context, a lot of people do.

> It isn't until you need something like Microsoft Office or Photoshop I run both of those on Linux, with no trouble. Who told you this?

How do you run ms office on Linux?

Re: Brave blocks Microsoft Recall by default

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I'm tired of all these apps using Recall as a lazy way to create pointless "privacy improving" features. This is pure marketing and there is absolutely no actual intention of improving user privacy.

As far as I know, Recall has never been enabled by default on any Windows-PC, even the new "Copilot+ PCs", so this should not be a concern as users have to explicitely opt-in to enable this privacy-invading feature.

First it was Signal which pretended being "forced" to create such a feature. I love Signal but I found this absolutely ridiculous.

Preventing a Window to be seen by other programs has the side-effect of making it completely invisible when using Windows remotely with tools such as Sunshine. How am I supposed to use Brave or Signal if the setting to disable this feature is not accessible because I can't even see the settings screen first?

HN really loves making Microsoft (especially Windows) appear even worse as it already is...

Re: Brave blocks Microsoft Recall by default

#157

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Well for those who are stuck with Windows because of some applications or simply because of familiarity. My suggestion is to stay on an older release as long as possible. If that isn't possible I would recommend keeping the computer turned off most of the time and only briefly using it for your purpose and try to keep from doing anything embarrassing or personal too much. Another thing that might help is calling up y…

Video games. Linux can play lots with Proton I have heard but not all.

It's multiplayer games with anti-cheat that are the ones not supported (with developers now having to go out of their way to turn OFF support for Linux); everything else works fine. If you're only into singleplayer (like me), games often run better on Linux.

Re: Brave blocks Microsoft Recall by default

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Gaming. Linux gaming has come a long way (especially thanks to the steam deck) but the vast majority of games are still only released on Windows.

Right, but thanks to Proton that’s just not relevant? Blue Prince, Clair Obscure, Lost Records, The Alters, Doom: The Dark Ages, Oblivion Remastered, South of Midnight… all run just fine on Steam on linux.

Every single game you mentioned has some sort of tinker step reported on protondb even though it may be marked platinum. Here’s the one for oblivion:

    DRI_PRIME=1 WINEDLLOVERRIDES="xaudio2_7=n,b" PULSE_LATENCY_MSEC=90 %command%

Or maybe it’s this one that the next user reported…

    DXIL_SPIRV_CONFIG=wmma_fp8_hack FSR4_UPGRADE=1 game-performance %command%

I personally don’t want to have to do stuff like that to get them to work.

Re: Brave blocks Microsoft Recall by default

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I go one step further. I have a Windows PC primarily for gaming, on its own physical LAN all to itself, that can only talk to the Internet (not any other LANs). I have an almost-identical PC (sans GPU) for Linux Mint, which I do all of my actually important or meaningful work on. Like you alluded to, I never use the Windows PC for anything else -- nothing even remotely sensitive -- nothing with identification like lo…

What about steam chat, discord, etc?

Don't use, don't have.

Re: Brave blocks Microsoft Recall by default

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This is why I’m not moving off Windows 10. I’d rather move to MacOS than Windows 11 and if they force me I’ll do it.

Why not Linux?

For the same reason that I didn't replace my linux at home and at works by windows: because they have different strengths.

Windows has for it:

- the gazillion software, free or crazily expensive, that do not exist on linux

- the hardware compatibility, whatever is built, it is with windows on mind

- the office file formats that are the de facto standart

- the software installation model that is very crap but infinitely better than on linux

- the OS upgrade path also has it's issue but still much better than on linux

Of course linux has its strength also, and you can find it better in some cases on the points I listed

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