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I don't understand why messaging apps send repeated notifications for multiple messages instead of staying silent for a time. You've notified once of the first message, it's enough for the next 30s.
I'm the original author of this content. I wrote it on the internal wiki at Google in 2007. Someone copied it and posted it at nohello.(something) after I left Google. It's made the front page of HN multiple times. The discussions always split between the people who just want to get on with the conversation and the people who can't bring themselves to do that because they consider it unforgivably rude. The second gro…
Email etiquette has always seemed natural to me, but a lot of people read chat as a synchronous medium, so.
It's just another place where I need to have multiple modes on hand for different people.
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Hmm you're actually selling we on why this can be useful. They are gaining information in the exchange, like how available you are, how willing to help etc.
Or just trying to trap you into a synchronous interaction on their terms, pressuring you to give them your full attention and respond immediately. They send their "Hi", and go do other stuff. You eventually respond with "hi", and they immediately reply with the request. At this point, they know you're around and saw their message - you just replied to their "hi". And you know they know , and also they know you know t…
It could be a symptom that on-boarding is broken and nobody does any one on one mentoring and the person feels lost.
Of course it can also be that they just want you to do their job instead of them because they don't want to think or work.
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That’s exactly what’s rude about it. Don’t make sure you have their attention. Just send the actual message. If it’s urgent enough that the actual message isn’t enough, “Hello” isn’t going to cut it either.
That's only rude sometimes. We don't typically talk to other people in real life without confirming their attention (e.g. via eye contact) first.
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Regex is enough of a language model to deal with this, no need for LLMs. On a sane operating system you would be able to suppress notifications with a regex match but most consumer operating systems are no longer sane.
>Regex is enough of a language model to deal with this, no need for LLMs. Dropbox comment vibes. Please provide the regex you use in your daily communication.
/^[Hh](ello|i|ey)( ${MY_NAME})?[.!]?$/Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't get what this achieves since the whole reason they sent you "hello" is that they want a TCP handshake before they get on with it. So sending hello back just acks the message and they will proceed which is what they wanted. The annoyance in TFA is that you have to do the handshake at all.
Actually, when you put it like that, sending 'hello' back might be the best thing you could do. They sent you a SYN, you send back and ACK, then the real conversation can begin. I suddenly no longer agree with TFA. This makes way more sense to me in this light.
In TCP, it's useful because it happens in a different layer of abstraction. Even then, QUIC was developed (partly) because it was realised there's no point waiting for the full SYN / SYN ACK / ACK before starting some of the higher-level exchange (although the early data transfer in QUIC is used for TLS initiation rather than application-level data).
My life hack for this kind of situation is to say “hello” back. Works every time.
I have several responses depending on how ornery I'm feeling 1. Respond with, "Hello. How can I help?", or 2. Wait until 5:30pm then respond, "Hello" and close my laptop for the day
I'm the original author of this content. I wrote it on the internal wiki at Google in 2007. Someone copied it and posted it at nohello.(something) after I left Google. It's made the front page of HN multiple times. The discussions always split between the people who just want to get on with the conversation and the people who can't bring themselves to do that because they consider it unforgivably rude. The second gro…
I've always been fascinated to learn more about cultural differences around this topic. I've seen arguments in the past that different nationalities may have different norms around this kind of thing, in particular over whether it's polite to launch straight into a request for help without confirming the other person is available and receptive first. There may be a power dynamics thing here too - if somebody is seen…
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Regex is enough of a language model to deal with this, no need for LLMs. On a sane operating system you would be able to suppress notifications with a regex match but most consumer operating systems are no longer sane.
>Regex is enough of a language model to deal with this, no need for LLMs. Dropbox comment vibes. Please provide the regex you use in your daily communication.
My work computer is a mac though so as I said, it's insane and I get to just suffer.