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Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by MattyRad »

IshKebab wrote: post #43

I thought it was great except for that one scene where they're eating in the wheat fields... It's just so weirdly obvious that it's a set and you can really clearly see where the set ends and the green screens start. Dunno why.

I thought it was great except for the final episode of season 1.

Spoilers:

People seem to gush over Maarva's hologram speech, I thought it was pretty weak (it started good then it was fumbled).

Maarva's act of rebellion should have been killing herself to deliver her speech at the right time. She's old and sickly, so it'd add gravitas and cost effectively nothing. Then she should have said that she'd resisted all her life, but killing herself was her first act of rebellion. Then the bomb that gets thrown into the Empire ranks should have been baked into her brick, giving her the chance to fight posthumously.

They had nearly all the plot points set up so nicely for the slam dunk, I was perplexed when it ended so dryly.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by isleyaardvark »

lucideer wrote: post #45
apples_oranges wrote: post #31

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You guys are excluding the George Lucas movies from discussion right? In my opinion nothing ever came even close and I gave up on SW after the second Kylo Ren movie. Rouge one was cool though, also first episodes of Mandalorian.. Should I really try Andor after all the bad stuff Disney made? A few days ago I watched the new LILO and Stitch and that was great, so maybe good people still work at Disney …

> Should I really try Andor after all the bad stuff Disney made? It's difficult to articulate Andor's quality to someone who hasn't seen it & is framing it in the context of things like Mandalorian. I can't stress enough that it's absolutely not just a "better" tv show than Mandalorian, &c. Not only is that an understatement, but it's also a fundamentally different beast to those shows. It's in a different category o…

It's the first "prestige" Star Wars TV show.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by colordrops »

marcosdumay wrote: post #108
lucideer wrote: post #42

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Ironically Andor is one of the closest to A New Hope narratively.

You could have the exact same story on a completely different universe, without using any of the Star Wars IP by doing only superficial adjustments. But also yes, it's the closest thing to the original theme since the second movie.

The second season is heavily tied to in-universe events that lead to Rogue One and A New Hope.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by vachina »

parsimo2010 wrote: post #124

Andor is shot beautifully but it has a major issue that has plagued an increasing amount of shows recently. It is way too dark. The creators knew it was going straight to streaming and was never shown in theaters. I can’t watch the show in the daytime because even with my blinds down and curtains drawn the window in my living room washes out half of the scenes. Some very important things happened in the dark (it bein…

Turn on dynamic tone mapping on your tv, or reduce contrast your TV settings.

I’d rather they preserve the dynamic range than succumb to the loudness war.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by colordrops »

boppo1 wrote: post #62
mcv wrote: post #29

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Andor is by far the best Star Wars. Rogue One is very good, and the only movie that's in the same league as the originals, but Andor is so much better. I don't think we'll see anything on the same level as Andor again; they already cut the original plans from 5 seasons to 2; it's simply too expensive and costs too much time to do it this well. But I do hope that future Star Wars shows will try to follow at least some…

>5 seasons Thank god. There's not enough meat on the bone, the writing would never have been good enough to support this. We need more excellent, tightly spun stories.

3 seasons would have been perfect. Season 2 was too packed.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by modeless »

peeters wrote: post #140
meowface wrote: post #15

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I watched it for the first time immediately after finishing Andor. Definitely better than the other Star Wars films but definitely not as good as Andor. (I'm aware the showrunner of Andor co-wrote Rogue One, but Andor really seems like a different tier.)

They did a really good job tying Andor into Rogue One, but yeah Andor is just far better in terms of pacing, etc. And because they have to rush the plot in R1 (meet Jyn, she doesn't care about the rebellion, oops never mind now she's leading the rebellion) it ends up seeming much shallower emotionally. They also seemed to have to have a bit of fan service. Rogue One was my favourite Star Wars production before Andor,…

If by fan service you mean the scene where Darth Vader is at his most terrifying in the whole franchise, I think it was handled perfectly.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by munificent »

xorcist wrote: post #132

What I don't understand is how film crews can work together when they are larger than two pizza teams? And when they want to change something, it's almost like they just do it? Surely they have to file a ticket with the Product Owner first? And why don't they wait until the current sprint is done before doing things that clearly belongs to the next one? Why do the producer run around speaking in precise terms when he…

A big part of the difference is the timelines and scale.

When you ship a piece of software, it's often expected to be usable by a million people reliably for years.

In film and video production, you're duct taping shit together to get it to stay in one piece just long enough to get the shot and get the film out the door. You're fixing shit in post because you were in a hurry on set. It's a sort of barely controlled chaos.

Game development is somewhere between the two.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by ulnarkressty »

xorcist wrote: post #132

What I don't understand is how film crews can work together when they are larger than two pizza teams? And when they want to change something, it's almost like they just do it? Surely they have to file a ticket with the Product Owner first? And why don't they wait until the current sprint is done before doing things that clearly belongs to the next one? Why do the producer run around speaking in precise terms when he…

For one, there is lots of planning happening behind the scenes to make sure everything is on schedule - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Production_board

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by goalieca »

munificent wrote: post #157
xorcist wrote: post #132

What I don't understand is how film crews can work together when they are larger than two pizza teams? And when they want to change something, it's almost like they just do it? Surely they have to file a ticket with the Product Owner first? And why don't they wait until the current sprint is done before doing things that clearly belongs to the next one? Why do the producer run around speaking in precise terms when he…

A big part of the difference is the timelines and scale. When you ship a piece of software, it's often expected to be usable by a million people reliably for years. In film and video production, you're duct taping shit together to get it to stay in one piece just long enough to get the shot and get the film out the door. You're fixing shit in post because you were in a hurry on set. It's a sort of barely controlled c…

The shot, once made, is forever unless you do an expensive reshoot. Software bugs happen and people have low expectations for bugs even in highly scaling software like YouTube.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by colordrops »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #111
rendall wrote: post #70

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I felt like The Mandalorian was a step above its nearest best of Star Wars TV. Andor is a step above that.

I'm on both sides of the fence with early Mandalorian. I need to watch it again until it jumps the shark because I don't know how early it did that. The latter episodes were incredibly laboured, with the narrative being spelt out, as if to a child, by various characters. I think it may have always been like that, but the look and feel overwhelmed the ridiculous dialogue for a while. If they were more clever with the…

Mandalorian started out strong and got progressively worse with each episode. Don't even bother with season 3.
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