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Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Massive real sets with CGI enhancements; sometimes green screens This is the definition of the Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy, and they're still some of the best-looking films I've ever seen, far surpassing the modern UE slop.

UE?

Unreal Engine is used quite a lot in animation.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Andor is OK. I didn't manage to finish the first season though and there are a few scenes - like the "training to blend in" - that are just totally corny and just seem "cheap". I disagree with the sentiment that Andor goes beyond the original trilogy. The world building in the originals is incredible.

The first season seriously builds up. The prison arc and the last episodes on Ferrix are absolutely top notch.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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>> But at the same time, I’m so happy that the digital revolution happened. It’s a bigger toolbox for your creativity, especially for night scenes. It’s much easier to light something natural, and to do something with less. No. This is why everything is so dark. With film, cinematographers had to hedge their bets. They could not risk a scene being too dark, something they would not be sure of until the film was devel…

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Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Andor is shot beautifully but it has a major issue that has plagued an increasing amount of shows recently. It is way too dark. The creators knew it was going straight to streaming and was never shown in theaters. I can’t watch the show in the daytime because even with my blinds down and curtains drawn the window in my living room washes out half of the scenes. Some very important things happened in the dark (it being a spy/espionage show), and I felt like I was blind. The script was not written to be an audio drama, it relies on visuals that I literally couldn’t see half the time.

Directors shooting something for streaming: please watch your show on a laptop or cheaper TV in a realistic bedroom or living room setting (with daylight leaking in or with some lights turned on). We don’t all have reference grade monitors and a pitch black studio. In fact, most consumers don’t have those things. If you really want to keep the cinematic purity, could you at least make a “normie edit” that pumps up the brightness?

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Massive real sets with CGI enhancements; sometimes green screens This is the definition of the Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy, and they're still some of the best-looking films I've ever seen, far surpassing the modern UE slop.

UE?

Unreal Engine

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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If you haven't watched Andor and you are at all open to sci-fi then I would urge you to consider giving a go. The writing, acting, and cinematography are all excellent, and IMO it is a very strong contender for the best TV show released in the last few years.

It makes me wish it were the actual start of the franchise and then they made Rogue One and the trilogy de novo. In that counterfactual I think there's a good shot it'd be far better than the originals, and the Star Wars story would be considered not just a classic but a masterpiece. (I don't think the original trilogy is bad exactly, but the trilogy with the Andor look/feel/style/writing/acting could've been some of…

It's again amazing A New Hope was as good as it was, given the budget, inexperience, and writing. But the ideas were brilliant, and Lucas' vision was unparalleled. And Andor is great because it had the budget and the writing to actually live up to that original vision. Empire is so good precisely because Lucas had the money to live up to it and really fill out the world. And the vision just exploded from there with the Expanded Universe. It's now a science fiction franchise that is much larger than the original Foundation novels it was based upon, and much larger than pretty much anything excepting Star Trek and maybe Marvel, at least in TV and film. There are quite literally hundreds of stories they could tell if the fans are still there.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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>> Right now everything is going wireless. Video is wireless. Lights are wireless. Sound is wireless. It’s all good, but there’s a lot of congestion on sets with all those things combined. Sometimes those nice tools don’t work because there’s too much technology on set

I’ve been there. Too much tech and compatibility among them is a major source of frustration. For a movie tech guys I see that as opportunity to come up with an OS where everything can be integrated where all stakeholders being users and multiple technologies working together with cohesion

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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post #47

I think Andor is a bit over hyped in this threat. I absolutely love it (especially the Imperial side of things) but saying it is better than the original movies is a bit too much. If you take into account the time and technical possibilities it's not even close. And the original movies have more memorable things overall. I mean the two villains alone are all time greats. The music is also better (imo). But most impor…

I don't get what people love about Andor. The prison break episode was good but the flashbacks to the kids in the jungle were horrible and the funeral with instruments straight out of Fat Albert's junkyard band were laughable.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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post #3

The cinematography, editing, writing, and overall feel of this show far exceed any Star Wars movie I've seen. I had long since written off the Star Wars franchise as a shameless cash grab since the original movies but they proved they could do something cool with it. I'd definitely watch a new movie if it were handled by the same team that made Andor. Prequel, sequel, side story, or re-telling of the originals.

I would recommend Skeleton Crew. Its def aimed at younger crows but if you have nieces/nephews or kids of your own its a delight.

Basically treasure Island/ goonies in space, it is campier than Andor but does what it aims for amazingly. Cause andor can get quite heavy on the fighting fascism and sometimes finding a treasure map is more the vibe than seeing holocaust planning meetings

I didnt watch anything mandalorian past season 2, never watched boba fet, obiwan or ahsoka because I thought it would be Dave Filoni getting action figures and bumping them together, and friends who watched them agree with my intuition. But yeah of the new star wars stuff Andor and Skeleton Crew are both amazing in very different ways

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, it's easy to view Lucas' films with a rose-tinted lens, but try and watch them now and you see: poor acting, poor writing, one-dimensional characters and plot points.

And by far the coolest looking spaceships ever seen in any medium. The production design was incredible. At least X-Wings, TIE Fighters, Corellian Corvettes, Imperial Shuttles and Star Destroyers. Not a fan of the Millennium Falcon tbh.

The TIE Avenger starship [1] in the series seems incredible. I cannot find the official toy.

[1] https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/TIE_Avenger

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