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Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Core 2 Duo is a pretty funny name. Are you going to sell replacement parts this time? I was immensely disappointed to see the initial watches being pretty repairable in theory, but no parts being sold. It was marketed as a tinkerer‘s device after all. I’m wearing my Pebble Time Steel right now - and quite like it. Haven’t found anything better. It could use some better activity tracking, but the worst thing about it…

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Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Everything appears to point that way, yes. This thread is full of people complaining how these aren't like their preferred watches, in terms of design, face shape, no GPS, etc. I think this is a much more valid criticism in that their expensive flagship watch is not like their cheaper watch.

It's kind of weird segmentation, but, given neither has GPS, I wonder how many people who'd seriously consider buying one of these really care about having a compass & barometer. Are those often important features to someone who doesn't care about GPS?

Having a compass and a barometer could be a "happy accident" of already having an all in one sensor that does all that things.

The compass could be easily related to an accelerometer used for detecting watch position (a function commonly used in smartwatches to power on the screen on certain positions that suggest you're looking at it) or detecting "steps".

Not so sure about where could you also get the barometric pressure sensor...

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

#153

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$100 profit on a $150 watch would be crazy. Rest of the post seems made up too. I don't know where these numbers are coming from. I'm genuinely confused.

Nah that's pretty typical, depending on what you mean by "profit".

Right, that is presumably gross profit per unit, not net. Net profit could easily be zero or negative.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Any ideas what the screen refresh rate is going to be at this point? All the screenshots don't have time that includes seconds, and having a watch face that can update at least every second would be a requirement for me. (I know e-ink displays can have fast refresh rates, like the 60Hz / fps Daylight computer - but that may not be cost effective / battery efficient here?)

30fps

What is the impact on battery life to have the screen update every second, versus every minute? Will it be possible to have the HR display, on faces that include it, rate-limited to achieve better battery life?

One of the nice things about Amazfit watches was that I could dial down the HR polling and get better battery life that way.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Yeah but I think that's only a factor in the consideration. I doubt it cancels out identical and very distinct names.

Perhaps a trademark lawyer can weigh in. My understanding is that a trademark is strictly limited to the areas (both in terms of geography and vertical) claimed in the application. This is why Apple didn't have to do battle with the Beatles until they got into the music business.

Yeah because "apple" is a common term that people might reasonably expect two businesses to use. The point of trademark law is to prevent consumer confusion.

I am not a trademark lawyer and I haven't even looked this up but if Apple made a "The Beatles Laptop" then I would hope that defence doesn't apply.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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1) Yes, the hardest part of building a watch is getting a display. There is only 1 vendor and we have to use what they make. Custom displays cost $1m+ and take 18 months to build. 2) It's not a running watch. I'd recommend getting garmin if you're looking for that.

> 2) It's not a running watch. I'd recommend getting garmin if you're looking for that. I think we are on the same page but I've communicated poorly. Why even include a heart rate sensor on a watch that is not intended for exercising in when the trade-off is sacrificing comfort and raising the complexity and cost of the design?

1. Every watch with a sensor towards your skin has a bump. Every example I've looked at has a much larger one.

2. People already exercise in metal straps and aluminum Garmins.

These just seem like you-things. Which is fine, but you should temper your complaints/bikeshedding accordingly.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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As someone who has exclusively worn a pebble since it was crowd funded, I am trilled. I love purpose built devices[0] that don't attempt to do everything. I don't need a watch that does everything, just triage notification and perform time related activities and get out of the way. Pebble has always fit that niche. The fact that I can hack on it and mold it to my needs has been icing. I have some sincere questions on…

1) Yes, the hardest part of building a watch is getting a display. There is only 1 vendor and we have to use what they make. Custom displays cost $1m+ and take 18 months to build. 2) It's not a running watch. I'd recommend getting garmin if you're looking for that.

I don't use my watch for running (using a 7 year old Fitbit versa). However, I do keep it on the entire day unless it is charging. I was curious what the weight of the Time 2 was going to be (I don't see it in the specs). I just wanted to compare the weight of it to my existing device. Thanks!

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

#158

Would have been nice to see a model without a microphone. I understand I'm a minoritiy (workplace doesn't allow devices with mics), but being severely hamstrung with smartwatch choices that don't have a microphone is tough. Will still definitely buy one to support the project, and will eagerly watch (heh) for new models!

Strange - I would expect a workplace that doesn't allow mics to also disallow bluetooth

Security theater

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

#159
I almost bought one and I'd love to.

But then I've read in the Q&A about the tariffs and how that would affect the price at time of shipment.

This is too much uncertainty for me.

I've got no incentive to buy from the US right now, as a European.

I wish you the best of luck, as you definitely put a lot of love into it

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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1) Yes, the hardest part of building a watch is getting a display. There is only 1 vendor and we have to use what they make. Custom displays cost $1m+ and take 18 months to build. 2) It's not a running watch. I'd recommend getting garmin if you're looking for that.

> 2) It's not a running watch. I'd recommend getting garmin if you're looking for that. I think we are on the same page but I've communicated poorly. Why even include a heart rate sensor on a watch that is not intended for exercising in when the trade-off is sacrificing comfort and raising the complexity and cost of the design?

Heart rate sensors have a number of uses aside from fitness tracking.

I'm guessing comfort wasn't considered because it isn't a common complaint.

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