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Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Re: Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Post by AlecSchueler »

stronglikedan wrote: post #94
sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #2

The disruption is (part of) the point. Degrading the ability of government employees to do their jobs leads to greater inefficiency and more failure, which can then be pointed at to validate assertions that government isn't efficient and produces bad outcomes.

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> I have no doubt that it can be cut down by 50% without adversely affecting anything long term.

Is this percentage based on anything more than vibes? Does it matter to you which eggs get broken and do you agree with the methods being employed to choose/break them? And sorry for all the questions but how do you feel about the conflicts of interests with people like Musk overseeing so much of this?

Re: Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Post by Brybry »

explain wrote: post #45
Aurornis wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It is mind blowing to me that this is what people want. It is not what people want. The Trump administration’s popularity is already below 50%, and much lower among independents (around 30% depending on the poll). Many people aren’t yet aware of what’s happening. A lot of the electorate is getting their news from filtered sources like Fox News or various far right media outlets. Joe Rogan has gone all in on praisin…

> The Trump administration’s popularity is already below 50% Just under 50% of the population voted for President Trump, so it's a given that "already" the popularity is below 50%.

USA 2024 population was ~340.1 million (census estimate).

156,302,318 voted (~63.9% of ~244 million eligible voters, extrapolated)

77.3 million voted for Trump (~49.8% of voters).

So that's ~31.6% of eligible voters or ~22.7% of the US population.

Re: Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Post by mexicocitinluez »

AzzieElbab wrote: post #144
CapricornNoble wrote: post #70

Interesting that the CNN article makes no mention of how badly under-utilized government office spaces are. https://wolfstreet.com/2025/01/25/doge-seeks-to-shed-vast-am... “A recent report from Sen. Joni Ernst, a Republican from Iowa who chairs the Senate DOGE caucus, found that not one of the headquarters for any major agency or department in Washington is more than half full. GSA-owned buildings in Washington, D.C.…

Is anyone even remotely curious why do government offices with no desks exist?

Do you know what a lease is? I can explain if you need.

This is like asking "Why does my car that I leased for 3 years still exist after 1?" Idk man.

Re: Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Post by mihaaly »

linuxftw wrote: post #98

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"fed employees I encountered every day did little to nothing" so arguing for the action plan of "get dressed and at least physically show up to collect a paycheck"

"they would just leave the government and seek employment elsewhere" when "There aren't any well paying jobs in the private sector" (because of "immigrants" and "corporations")

What a mental system ... or whatever! It is true then: there are people looking up to the level of Trmup!

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Post by floatrock »

throwaway173738 wrote: post #28
kept3k wrote: post #13

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It can take weeks to source and build cubicles and networks back out.

I mean, there's a whole bunch of recently unemployed people with federal work credentials.

If I was knowledgable about government contracting, I would scoop up a bunch of those folks for a government-certified TaskRabbit service.

After all, private sector is always more efficient.

Re: Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Post by mexicocitinluez »

CapricornNoble wrote: post #70

Interesting that the CNN article makes no mention of how badly under-utilized government office spaces are. https://wolfstreet.com/2025/01/25/doge-seeks-to-shed-vast-am... “A recent report from Sen. Joni Ernst, a Republican from Iowa who chairs the Senate DOGE caucus, found that not one of the headquarters for any major agency or department in Washington is more than half full. GSA-owned buildings in Washington, D.C.…

> I'm a fan of remote work and would prefer that we crash the Commercial Real Estate market by canceling leases rather that stuffing people back into cubicle farms,

Do you have even the slightest bit of proof that wasn't already the case? How do you know this wasn't already in progress?

Re: Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Post by peppers-ghost »

hnthrow90348765 wrote: post #58
philistine wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The is exactly a move the people in power in those troubled countries will use to maintain control over government. It used to be that the US government had pride in its own professionalism. The US is now acting like the countries it loves to destabilize.

Well, Russia is destabilizing the US and winning which is why I think we're acting like that. And it seems all of our military and counterintelligence capabilities can't stop it. Too much offense, not enough defense, it seems.

I'm not even sure it's true Russia is doing this. I think our elected officials might just be really stupid on their own.

Re: Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Post by tallanvor »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #22

Wild that oil & gas subsidies, Medicare negotiating more drugs and foreign military base reductions are off the table. But god forbid we see another hurricane coming.

Because Trump is a kleptocrat. He's not in it to make government better, he's in it to steal as much as he can for himself and his friends.

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Post by russdill »

mexicocitinluez wrote: post #139
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #22

Wild that oil & gas subsidies, Medicare negotiating more drugs and foreign military base reductions are off the table. But god forbid we see another hurricane coming.

> Medicare negotiating more drugs I don't care what side you fall down on, the only reason someone would rollback Medicare negotiating drug prices is so that they can make more money on their big pharma stocks. I can't believe a bunch of grown adults voted for this shit.

Most of the people I talk to seem to have one thing they are holding on to as the thing they'll get out of their vote. Like "he's going to eliminate the income taxes I pay on my social security" etc

The thing is almost never true, and even if he were is a horrible self centered justification.

Re: Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Post by anal_reactor »

the_gipsy wrote: post #93
Aurornis wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It is mind blowing to me that this is what people want. It is not what people want. The Trump administration’s popularity is already below 50%, and much lower among independents (around 30% depending on the poll). Many people aren’t yet aware of what’s happening. A lot of the electorate is getting their news from filtered sources like Fox News or various far right media outlets. Joe Rogan has gone all in on praisin…

> It’s only a matter of time until they realize It will be far too late. That's why they're going so fast. The damage comes with a huge latency. Perhaps America can be saved and this is nothing but a bump in the ride, I'm no Nostradamus, but this could very well be the end of the Free West.

The worst thing about being born in a rich country during prosperity is that every single issue is the worst problem you've ever faced in your life.
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