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Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Re: Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Post by danaris »

Aurornis wrote: post #35

> “The only thing a return to the office has given me is an hour of traffic while driving and a loss in efficiency,” said the worker, who requested anonymity for fear of job reprisals. RTO in a nutshell. As someone who chose my living location based on where my family wants to live first and jobs second, this sudden turn to RTO mandates is infinitely depressing. Most of my work involves talking to people in different…

It's insane that anyone actually believes that it's being done for efficiency.

It's not, and never was.

It's being done a) to drive people to quit, so they don't have to lay them off, and b) to restore the power dynamic to the status quo ante, where your manager could just look over at your cubicle and see you in your seat, and know that whether or not you were working, you were still there to bow to them. (And many of them genuinely have zero metric for gauging "how much is Aurornis working?" besides measuring the amount of time a butt is in a seat, and are desperate to avoid having to admit that.)

Re: Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Post by arkh »

adapt_and_laugh wrote: post #5
sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #2

The disruption is (part of) the point. Degrading the ability of government employees to do their jobs leads to greater inefficiency and more failure, which can then be pointed at to validate assertions that government isn't efficient and produces bad outcomes.

And if more federal employees quit because of the poor conditions, it’s just more people they don’t have to worry about laying off.

The problem is the people who quit because they cannot work are not those you want to lay off. Those who stay in those conditions? That's those who were not adding anything useful before.

Re: Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Post by the_gipsy »

Aurornis wrote: post #23
selykg wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely insane that this is what we've come to. It is mind blowing to me that this is what people want. We are regressing this country so rapidly that we are likely to become one of those shithole countries the president so loudly proclaimed Haiti, El Salvador and others were.

> It is mind blowing to me that this is what people want. It is not what people want. The Trump administration’s popularity is already below 50%, and much lower among independents (around 30% depending on the poll). Many people aren’t yet aware of what’s happening. A lot of the electorate is getting their news from filtered sources like Fox News or various far right media outlets. Joe Rogan has gone all in on praisin…

> It’s only a matter of time until they realize

It will be far too late. That's why they're going so fast. The damage comes with a huge latency. Perhaps America can be saved and this is nothing but a bump in the ride, I'm no Nostradamus, but this could very well be the end of the Free West.

Re: Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Post by stronglikedan »

sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #2

The disruption is (part of) the point. Degrading the ability of government employees to do their jobs leads to greater inefficiency and more failure, which can then be pointed at to validate assertions that government isn't efficient and produces bad outcomes.

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Re: Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Post by alabastervlog »

Aurornis wrote: post #23
selykg wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely insane that this is what we've come to. It is mind blowing to me that this is what people want. We are regressing this country so rapidly that we are likely to become one of those shithole countries the president so loudly proclaimed Haiti, El Salvador and others were.

> It is mind blowing to me that this is what people want. It is not what people want. The Trump administration’s popularity is already below 50%, and much lower among independents (around 30% depending on the poll). Many people aren’t yet aware of what’s happening. A lot of the electorate is getting their news from filtered sources like Fox News or various far right media outlets. Joe Rogan has gone all in on praisin…

Tons of voters reverse many of their positions if you explain the issues to them without using the labels they’re used to.

I’m not sure “they could have known, but didn’t bother to learn, and instead voted based on Fox News and talk radio and podcast and Facebook post bullshit” is enough to say they didn’t vote for this. If it is, that’s… kinda usually the case.

Re: Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Post by alxjrvs »

drivingmenuts wrote: post #21
Etheryte wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Twitter playbook, except for the government.

At this point, anyone remaining at Xitter has to be aware that they are working for a neo-Nazi. And anyone using Xitter in a country that has a history of fighting Nazi's in WWII has to be aware of who they're supporting. It's maddening how many people just don't seem to give a shit.

Many of them are trapped by work visas.

Re: Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Post by [deleted] »

drivingmenuts wrote: post #21
Etheryte wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Twitter playbook, except for the government.

At this point, anyone remaining at Xitter has to be aware that they are working for a neo-Nazi. And anyone using Xitter in a country that has a history of fighting Nazi's in WWII has to be aware of who they're supporting. It's maddening how many people just don't seem to give a shit.

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Re: Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Post by Octoth0rpe »

selykg wrote: post #34
Aurornis wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It is mind blowing to me that this is what people want. It is not what people want. The Trump administration’s popularity is already below 50%, and much lower among independents (around 30% depending on the poll). Many people aren’t yet aware of what’s happening. A lot of the electorate is getting their news from filtered sources like Fox News or various far right media outlets. Joe Rogan has gone all in on praisin…

> Anecdotally, I have some extended family who were very pro-Trump. One of them recently discovered that her job was funded through a federal grant, and now it’s likely going to be cut even though she doesn’t work for the government directly. They also discovered that one of their family members is covered by Medicaid through an avenue that’s looking like it will be cut. They went through a stage of disbelief, but no…

> I keep hearing stuff like this, but it doesn't seem to be widespread enough to seem to matter, at least in my circle.

It also hasn't fully hit yet. The layoffs are in progress, already awarded grant money is still paying salaries. 3-6 months is when the pain will really begin. Until then, I think a lot of people are still thinking that it either won't really happen to them, or that Trump will somehow make an exception just for their particular federal money pipeline.

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