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Re: Solitaire

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Post by rc5150 »

palsecam wrote: post #75
bbkane wrote: post #14

I love Solitaire - it's such a nice way to kill a few minutes while waiting for something else. Unfortunately, many solitaire phone apps are filled with ads, slow, or have clunky controls. A few years ago, however, I found https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.tobiasbielefeld.solitaire... . Its free and open source, and quite fast with nice shortcuts to move the cards. I love this app and have played multiple Klondike/S…

Using a lightweight PWA (progressive web app) is also an option: https://FreeSolitaire.win (self-plug). Doesn’t generate unwinnable games[1] & detects dead-ends. Works offline after the first visit. No ads until game over, and they aren’t obtrusive. Often lauded on HN, e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41972075 or https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42031052 . 1: The probability that a random deal is unwinna…

Ugh. thank you for posting this link, its going in my favorites for certain. Please link to where I can contribute!

Re: Solitaire

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Post by rc5150 »

rc5150 wrote: post #151
palsecam wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using a lightweight PWA (progressive web app) is also an option: https://FreeSolitaire.win (self-plug). Doesn’t generate unwinnable games[1] & detects dead-ends. Works offline after the first visit. No ads until game over, and they aren’t obtrusive. Often lauded on HN, e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41972075 or https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42031052 . 1: The probability that a random deal is unwinna…

Ugh. thank you for posting this link, its going in my favorites for certain. Please link to where I can contribute!

Scratch that, just had to complete the first game!

For what it's worth, I was willing to contribute before the end of the first game. If that illustrates anything to you it's that you've got a winner on your hands :)

Re: Solitaire

#153

Post by banannaise »

djeastm wrote: post #101
banannaise wrote: post #81

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It's a roguelike deckbuilder. The randomness is necessary to the genre. I think you've missed something important: none of these elements in Balatro are monetized. The only way the developer makes more money is through players telling other players how fun the game is, which convinces them to buy it.

>I think you've missed something important: none of these elements in Balatro are monetized. Monetization doesn't really affect addiction, which was the question at hand.

It absolutely does, because monetization leads to weaponization of patterns of addiction.

Key things Balatro does not have, that make it a poor example of the problem of addictive games:

1. Monetization. See above.

2. Anything timed. At all. No hourly, daily, weekly, or monthly anything. Nothing that tries to coerce you into reopening the app, aside from "I want to play Balatro now".

3. Lootbox cosmetics. All cosmetics are deterministic. All unlocks are part of gameplay. The collection tracker is dependent on obtaining items (mostly cards) at random, but is focused on the challenge aspect to diversify gameplay: rather than "can you get these cards" it asks "can you win with these cards".

Balatro does belong in a nuanced discussion of how we often conflate addictiveness and fun, and how that presents itself in media and games, but that's not because it's a particularly egregious example of weaponizing addiction.

Re: Solitaire

#154

Post by kaiokendev »

palsecam wrote: post #75
bbkane wrote: post #14

I love Solitaire - it's such a nice way to kill a few minutes while waiting for something else. Unfortunately, many solitaire phone apps are filled with ads, slow, or have clunky controls. A few years ago, however, I found https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.tobiasbielefeld.solitaire... . Its free and open source, and quite fast with nice shortcuts to move the cards. I love this app and have played multiple Klondike/S…

Using a lightweight PWA (progressive web app) is also an option: https://FreeSolitaire.win (self-plug). Doesn’t generate unwinnable games[1] & detects dead-ends. Works offline after the first visit. No ads until game over, and they aren’t obtrusive. Often lauded on HN, e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41972075 or https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42031052 . 1: The probability that a random deal is unwinna…

Great game!

Re: Solitaire

#155

Post by wasabi991011 »

palsecam wrote: post #75
bbkane wrote: post #14

I love Solitaire - it's such a nice way to kill a few minutes while waiting for something else. Unfortunately, many solitaire phone apps are filled with ads, slow, or have clunky controls. A few years ago, however, I found https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.tobiasbielefeld.solitaire... . Its free and open source, and quite fast with nice shortcuts to move the cards. I love this app and have played multiple Klondike/S…

Using a lightweight PWA (progressive web app) is also an option: https://FreeSolitaire.win (self-plug). Doesn’t generate unwinnable games[1] & detects dead-ends. Works offline after the first visit. No ads until game over, and they aren’t obtrusive. Often lauded on HN, e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41972075 or https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42031052 . 1: The probability that a random deal is unwinna…

Wow, the dead-end detection + rewinding is amazing! Didn't know it was something I needed, but really appreciate it.

Re: Solitaire

#156

Post by palsecam »

kaiokendev wrote: post #154
palsecam wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using a lightweight PWA (progressive web app) is also an option: https://FreeSolitaire.win (self-plug). Doesn’t generate unwinnable games[1] & detects dead-ends. Works offline after the first visit. No ads until game over, and they aren’t obtrusive. Often lauded on HN, e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41972075 or https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42031052 . 1: The probability that a random deal is unwinna…

Great game!

Thank you!

Re: Solitaire

#157

Post by palsecam »

wasabi991011 wrote: post #155
palsecam wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using a lightweight PWA (progressive web app) is also an option: https://FreeSolitaire.win (self-plug). Doesn’t generate unwinnable games[1] & detects dead-ends. Works offline after the first visit. No ads until game over, and they aren’t obtrusive. Often lauded on HN, e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41972075 or https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42031052 . 1: The probability that a random deal is unwinna…

Wow, the dead-end detection + rewinding is amazing! Didn't know it was something I needed, but really appreciate it.

I’m glad you like it :-)

Re: Solitaire

#158

Post by peddling-brink »

palsecam wrote: post #75
bbkane wrote: post #14

I love Solitaire - it's such a nice way to kill a few minutes while waiting for something else. Unfortunately, many solitaire phone apps are filled with ads, slow, or have clunky controls. A few years ago, however, I found https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.tobiasbielefeld.solitaire... . Its free and open source, and quite fast with nice shortcuts to move the cards. I love this app and have played multiple Klondike/S…

Using a lightweight PWA (progressive web app) is also an option: https://FreeSolitaire.win (self-plug). Doesn’t generate unwinnable games[1] & detects dead-ends. Works offline after the first visit. No ads until game over, and they aren’t obtrusive. Often lauded on HN, e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41972075 or https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42031052 . 1: The probability that a random deal is unwinna…

Game is great, I might continue playing, but the fake update scam ads are predatory and frankly fairly intrusive.

Edit: screenshot: https://ibb.co/4RkTFzZ4

The X to close the ad didn’t work.

Re: Solitaire

#159

Post by bdavbdav »

xnx wrote: post #4
modeless wrote: post #2

Balatro is the only game where my score has maxed out the value of a double precision floating point number. And this isn't some crazy speedrunning strategy, it's very achievable for normal players. It's strangely compelling to make numbers go up and Balatro harnesses that better than any game I've played.

> It's strangely compelling to make numbers go up and Balatro harnesses that better than any game I've played. More than Universal Paperclips?

Makes me think of this neal fun game: https://neal.fun/stimulation-clicker/

Re: Solitaire

#160

Post by palsecam »

peddling-brink wrote: post #158
palsecam wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using a lightweight PWA (progressive web app) is also an option: https://FreeSolitaire.win (self-plug). Doesn’t generate unwinnable games[1] & detects dead-ends. Works offline after the first visit. No ads until game over, and they aren’t obtrusive. Often lauded on HN, e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41972075 or https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42031052 . 1: The probability that a random deal is unwinna…

Game is great, I might continue playing, but the fake update scam ads are predatory and frankly fairly intrusive. Edit: screenshot: https://ibb.co/4RkTFzZ4 The X to close the ad didn’t work.

Thanks for letting me know. That’s not my choice but AdSense. However, I can manually disable ads like this one, I’ll look into it.
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