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Re: 1-800-ChatGPT

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Post by SkyPuncher »

This is a killer feature for me. In fact, I briefly explored building a semi-self hosted version for myself.

My biggest use case for ChatGPT voice mode is when I _need_ or _want_ to be handsfree. Think working around the house/yard, Driving, Walking around the grocery store, cooking, etc. I find that I end up using my iPhone's voice-to-text then simply communicate with text mode (in the case of driving, I stop). After all, once I have to touch my phone, it's just faster to work in text mode.

All of my devices know how to make calls. All of my devices know how to make calls from a voice command. All of my devices know how to hang up a call. This is really nice.

Re: 1-800-ChatGPT

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Post by airstrike »

adamc wrote: post #130
dayjah wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a thin edge of the wedge issue, right? ChatGPT is pretty darn good for most things. I’ve used it extensively for the past 18 months and only in a few cases would I say it “completely lied to me”. My general rubric is: “would I trust someone on Reddit to correctly guide me on this”. If the answer is “yes” then ChatGPT is likely going to do well. If the volume on a particular subject is low / susceptible to fal…

I've asked it for things like book recommendations and gotten: - completely made up books - real books that were only marginally related - real books with really bad reviews I'd estimate that only 30-40% of the time did I find the results at all useful.

stop using it like a database that you can query

Re: 1-800-ChatGPT

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Post by krger »

drusepth wrote: post #128
hypeatei wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree about an abundance of apps, but what type of value are LLMs adding? It can sometimes be useful to input a more "human" search and have something get spit out but 60% of the time it completely lies to you. I'm talking about questions related to web specifications which are public documents. Section numbers, standards names, etc.. will be completely made up.

LLMs have been a personal tutor to me for the last year, able to explain anything and everything I've been curious about professionally and personally. I changed jobs to new technologies in large part because I effectively had an assistant able to help cover any gaps in knowledge I had, train me up quickly, and offer ongoing help on the job. They can make stuff up, but saying "60% of the time they lie to you" hasn't…

>They can make stuff up, but saying "60% of the time they lie to you" hasn't been true for years.

If you're using them to fill knowledge gaps, what scaffolding have you set up to ensure that those gaps aren't being filled with incorrect-but-plausible-sounding information?

Re: 1-800-ChatGPT

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Post by raydiak »

Sure seemed lifelike. I started right in on asking it about the nature of consciousness and self awareness, and then pointed out that its own behavior matched the majority of the criteria it described while referring contextually to previous statements in the conversation. Then it turned into a seasoned politician, precisely understanding but vaguely answering in handwavey directions. Either that behavior is well-tuned, or it's in one form or another backed by human workers like Musk's humanoid robot theater. If the conversation raises certain flags then you escalate it to a human to preserve the illusion? Not asserting, just speculating from my brief few minutes poking at it

Re: 1-800-ChatGPT

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Post by becquerel »

zamadatix wrote: post #76
dghlsakjg wrote: post #21

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Controversial take: LLMs are the first time in a while that I have felt like emerging technology trends is doing something cool and adding value. For the past 8-10 years it has all felt like a bunch of apps that just aim to be mediocre middlemen/gig economy brokers with bad customer service.

I'd (generally) agree. About 5 minutes of using Flux, Claude or Suno would have provided more net new value than I've yet to get out of blockchain, self driving, gig brokers, metaverse, 5G, AR/VR, quantum computing, hyperloop, and whatever people were trying to make web3 be combined over the years. Not that I don't think all of these things will always perpetually fail to deliver (hell, if I had a chance to try Waymo…

I will personally say that if you ever get the chance, definitely try a Waymo. I did recently for the first time and it's a hell of an experience. You can very vividly imagine it being the future.

I'm also going to stand up for AR/VR here. I'm in a long-distance relationship and me and my partner spend an hour or so in VRChat around two to three times a week. The power that has to reduce the badness of an LDR is well well well well worth the three hundred bucks I paid for a Quest. That and some of the golf games on it are fun.

Re: 1-800-ChatGPT

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Post by ppp999 »

Thats perfect for jail... Simce ypu cant access the internet nut can access the phone.

An e-mail version of this would also be nice.

Re: 1-800-ChatGPT

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Post by dghlsakjg »

hypeatei wrote: post #49
dghlsakjg wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Controversial take: LLMs are the first time in a while that I have felt like emerging technology trends is doing something cool and adding value. For the past 8-10 years it has all felt like a bunch of apps that just aim to be mediocre middlemen/gig economy brokers with bad customer service.

I agree about an abundance of apps, but what type of value are LLMs adding? It can sometimes be useful to input a more "human" search and have something get spit out but 60% of the time it completely lies to you. I'm talking about questions related to web specifications which are public documents. Section numbers, standards names, etc.. will be completely made up.

I find it useful, and it brings value to me (literally: I exchange valuable money for API access), even if it doesn't for you. Many other people report the exact same thing. Just because you don't find value in a technology, doesn't mean that others don't.

In the past week I have used it for helping write a script in a framework I'm not super familiar with (OpenSCAD), I was able to finish a project in 5 minutes that otherwise would have taken me hours. I have used it to help make movie recommendations (none of them were hallucinated). I have used it to translate a conversation with a non-english speaker, etc. There are other tools that can help me do all of these things, but none quite as fast or painlessly.

It might not be useful for your use case of asking questions related to specific web specs, but that doesn't mean that the technology has no value. Horses for courses...

Re: 1-800-ChatGPT

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Post by swatcoder »

rtsil wrote: post #131
hypeatei wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree about an abundance of apps, but what type of value are LLMs adding? It can sometimes be useful to input a more "human" search and have something get spit out but 60% of the time it completely lies to you. I'm talking about questions related to web specifications which are public documents. Section numbers, standards names, etc.. will be completely made up.

Off the top of my head, and just for the last couple of months, and only outside of work (where its value is even more immense), it has saved one of my indoor plants, told me how to handle a major boiler problem that would have left us without a working boiler during a weekend in the winder, with the next "emergency" repairman only available on Monday, advised me to use Kopia as backup solution for my personal files…

Yes, but which of those things would you not have resolved just as well 10 years ago? All those possibilities were added by the maturing web itself, as a genuinely novel change from having to source books or experts/friends in the days before.

I'm glad ChatGPT didn't lead you astray, but I'm not seeing what it's added here besides shuffling up the user interface in a way that you presently and subjectively prefer?

Re: 1-800-ChatGPT

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Post by solfox »

Calling it now: Google will ultimately lose this consumer battle. How? By doing what they've always done: building better tech. Gemini will be faster/better and it will have more features; but they will continue to fail to productize or explain it to consumers.

Google's offerings here are still a huge mess. OpenAI is crushing them right now at building products that people want, and making them accessible.

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