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Disposable vapes to be banned in England and Wales

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Re: Disposable vapes to be banned in England and Wales

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You mean, people's right to attack other people.

Are you trying to control outlaws with laws? Good luck.

It worked everywhere else. There are less murderers because murder is illegal.

Re: Disposable vapes to be banned in England and Wales

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I think you're forgetting something called the CONSTITUTION which gives a number of rights that one doesn't have in the UK like -Freedom of expression (can't be arrested for social media posts, can't easily get sued into the ground for libel[0]) -Right to bear arms (technically legal for citizens to organize their own militant force, though often discouraged) -Right to remain silent (it is always advised to never tal…

As an American, I'm still often baffled by American Exceptionalism. Often people who say stuff like this have zero actual clue about how things are done in other countries. And it's laughable to call out the right to bear arms when just being suspected of having a weapon is enough to justify an execution by the police.

I recall the time the Japanese imprisoned the CEO of Nissan on trumped up charges and he had to smuggle himself out of the country to escape. Of course the US has Gitmo, but in general the justice system is remarkably fair compared to other countries, since its much harder to get a guilty verdict, which is why so many criminal court cases end with plea deals instead.

Re: Disposable vapes to be banned in England and Wales

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As an American, I'm still often baffled by American Exceptionalism. Often people who say stuff like this have zero actual clue about how things are done in other countries. And it's laughable to call out the right to bear arms when just being suspected of having a weapon is enough to justify an execution by the police.

Especially considering the fifth amendment was specifically intended to allow for a militia to defend against the government, not to enable students to carry an automatic rifle into school—but here we are

2nd amendment, 5th is the "right to remain silent" etc.

Still, the issue with school shootings is mostly that it targets the wrong people. After school programs, community support for troubled youth, options for local service or a job placement program for kids would all be solutions, but the youth only sees other kids at school as the problem. If the system is so screwed up that a kid feels the need to take up arms to fight against it, then they should, but school shootings are unnecessarily cruel and generally fail to lead to progressive changes; more often than not they become justification for increases in the very authoritarian measures that promote the violence in the first place.

Re: Disposable vapes to be banned in England and Wales

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I was describing the current state. Children cannot currently buy vapes; adults can. However, it still ends up in the hands of children.

I don't see why that's relevant to the ban

It's relevant to the article

> intended to protect children's health

It sounds like you disagree and are expressing that disagreement as a difference of understanding. Is that right?

Re: Disposable vapes to be banned in England and Wales

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Looks like one of them is Pyne Pod: https://www.pynepod.com/uploads/bd58c18e.png The Geek Bar Pulse has the custom multi-segment on the side: https://oss.geekbar.com/products/meloso-ultra/2/Orange%20Cre...

> Looks like one of them is Pyne Pod: https://www.pynepod.com/uploads/bd58c18e.png Is that a USB port on the underside? A rechargeable, non-refillable vape, oh my...

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Re: Disposable vapes to be banned in England and Wales

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An ex of mine used disposable vapes and I was shocked by how beautifully designed some of them are - transparent covers with visible inner workings reminiscent of the Nothing phones; custom multi-segment displays for battery and temperature status; original artwork printed in vibrant color on the side. It made me even angrier that these things are meant to just be used once and then thrown out. Of course putting all…

Displays? I'm curious to see these if you know what brand these were.

cali 8000 model has them as well.

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The most popular pocket knife in the US (as far as I know) has a 3.75 inch blade. https://www.buckknives.com/product/110-folding-hunter-knife/...

That’s a hunting knife with a belt holster. It might be popular but usually “pocket knife” means something like a Swiss Army knife which comfortably fits in a normal sized pocket. (Nothing against Buck Knives, by the way - I have one of the first ones made in the custom knife shop 25 years ago when I developed the web UI for them. It’s just not a daily carry kind of size for most of us.)

I don't think that's true. Where I grew up everyone carried a knife like this and called it a "pocket knife", and the description on wikipedia, various stores, blogs, manufacturers, etc all use the term to refer to this sort of knife.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocketknife

Buck also has many knives they specifically call "pocket knife" that have a blade longer than 3 inches:

https://www.buckknives.com/collections/pocket-knives/

Re: Disposable vapes to be banned in England and Wales

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If only I had a pound for every discarded vape canister littered on the ground I've seen in London over the past few years. Will the ban fix this? I barely even know what a vape is.

Not that you asked, but a vape is a device consisting of a metal coil that has electricity ran through it to vaporize a mixture of nicotine (either in its salt or free base form), propylene glycol, vegetable glycerin, and other additives and flavoring that has soaked into a (usually cotton) wick so that this vapor can be inhaled. There are disposable vapes that provide all of these in one bright candy-flavored package, and diy-style “pod mods” and “box mods” with modular tanks/pods and coils (and parts of coils for real enthusiasts), the latter which is filled by bottles of the same type of nicotine pg/vg liquid. They are available in different flavors, different ratios of pg/vg, different concentrations, and with the salt of or free base nicotine. A disposable ranges from $10-40, a mod ranges from around $30-300, and bottles range between around $15-$30. They are kind of nice but addictive and pointless.

Re: Disposable vapes to be banned in England and Wales

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>The ban will not apply to rechargeable or refillable devices. My impression was that these make up the lion's share of "disposable" vape sales. I've certainly never known anyone to use anything else, but I'm also not 14 and vaping in the bathroom.

There are cheaper ($5-15) ones that I have seen commonly used that aren’t rechargeable, but that’s in the US.
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