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Oh so in Russia its jumping out a window and in the USA its some random method of suicide? Why not be specific, and consistent, like Russia?
DGSE (French secret service) really like to drown people, so avoid cities with canals and/or river if you feel you can be a target :)
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I think you heavily under estimate what normal people motivated by money are capable of doing. In my friends highschool, some businesses guy was paying highschool kids (16 - 17 ish) to strangle car owners and steal their cars. They were later caught. Also, watch or read Killers of The Flowers Moon. The problem with planned murder is that it is all hidden, and the details are fuzzy. So there is alot of reasonable doub…
> normal people motivated by money… strangle car owners and steal their cars… Those are not in any way normal people. If someone makes it to 16-17 y/o without acquiring that fundamental moral lesson, I would not characterize them as normal, whatever the cause of that failure.
Moral grandstanding won't change the fact that civilization is rather thinly veiling the violent ape in most of us
Every single person in the previous thread who ridiculed others for saying that suicide was _not_ the most likely explanation needs a serious re-evaluation of their priors.
Stress and pressure can lead to performing actions that you thought you couldn't do. They don't specify how early this event took place but mentions that deposition was yet to take place. So a lot could have changed after that as there's kind of no turning back.
Your argument applies to both.
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I did say "appears," but this is some Epstein levels of "coincidence." I'm not really a conspiracy-theory type, but I mean c'mon. Does anyone believe that Epstein killed himself? Makes me think of this little stand-up comedy snippet. https://www.reddit.com/r/StandUpComedy/comments/14rcr7n/cons... "I understand not believing in most conspiracy theories, but NONE? You really think the government's batting 100? They ain…
If you believe Epstein was murdered you are in a tiny, tiny, tiny minority of very gullible or very simple minded people. Upon a cursory review of both the facts of the matter and the very best arguments conspiracists can copy and paste, it is self-evident that he killed himself.
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I think you heavily under estimate what normal people motivated by money are capable of doing. In my friends highschool, some businesses guy was paying highschool kids (16 - 17 ish) to strangle car owners and steal their cars. They were later caught. Also, watch or read Killers of The Flowers Moon. The problem with planned murder is that it is all hidden, and the details are fuzzy. So there is alot of reasonable doub…
> normal people motivated by money… strangle car owners and steal their cars… Those are not in any way normal people. If someone makes it to 16-17 y/o without acquiring that fundamental moral lesson, I would not characterize them as normal, whatever the cause of that failure.
These kinds of things happen and the waters immediately get murky. Even those closest to the person in question are never really 100% sure. Reminds me of the death of journalist Michael Hastings in 2013. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hastings_(journalist)#... Richard Clarke's assessment seemed to carry the weight of truth. But only to a point. Just enough to engage the suspicions of family and friends, but no…
The Hastings thing is classic mania for those of us who know people who have experienced that.
Oh so in Russia its jumping out a window and in the USA its some random method of suicide? Why not be specific, and consistent, like Russia?
Not random. In Russia, they blame it on an open window in a tall building. In America they blame it on a black guy with a gun. Man in Sioux Falls, South Dakota shoots himself in penis and tries to blame black guy: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/man-shoots... ‘We failed the city of Boston’: how a racist manhunt led to chaos in 1989: https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2023/dec/07/we-fail... Bla…
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Contrary to popular belief, there is not a readily and highly available supply of assassins and hitmen in the world. The problem with this whole "he totally didn't kill himself" thing is...okay, so how did they kill him? Because you can't just put a gun in the hand of an unwilling person and force them to shoot themselves without leaving evidence.
I think you heavily under estimate what normal people motivated by money are capable of doing. In my friends highschool, some businesses guy was paying highschool kids (16 - 17 ish) to strangle car owners and steal their cars. They were later caught. Also, watch or read Killers of The Flowers Moon. The problem with planned murder is that it is all hidden, and the details are fuzzy. So there is alot of reasonable doub…
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I think you heavily under estimate what normal people motivated by money are capable of doing. In my friends highschool, some businesses guy was paying highschool kids (16 - 17 ish) to strangle car owners and steal their cars. They were later caught. Also, watch or read Killers of The Flowers Moon. The problem with planned murder is that it is all hidden, and the details are fuzzy. So there is alot of reasonable doub…
> normal people motivated by money… strangle car owners and steal their cars… Those are not in any way normal people. If someone makes it to 16-17 y/o without acquiring that fundamental moral lesson, I would not characterize them as normal, whatever the cause of that failure.
This happens way too often, and I'm genuinely curious why. The easy answer is that paranoid people with a vendetta say exactly this to throw guilt onto the other party. The hard answer is harder to swallow. What can we do about it?
It is the way of the world. Television, magazines, social media, etc do their best to conceal it, but it is always there in the background. It boils down to power. Boeing can make fighter jets, I can't. This is where the socialists err. "If we just take their money!" They'll make it all back within the year. "If we just had a law!" They'll buy legislators, bribe judges & law enforcement. If that doesn't work, they'll…