Must feel nice to be able to return opened devices for a full refund. In this part of the world you can only return it if the device had manufacturing defect and that too for a replacement device. Sometimes you can't even return that, you have to contact the manufacturer for warranty.
Apple Vision Nope: Why I returned mine
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Re: Apple Vision Nope: Why I returned mine
#152"It’s a V1 Apple product. It’s a new category, for them, and by far the most ambitious headset on the consumer market." Well, all other V1 Apple products weren't half-assed, or at least when they were, they offered something more than the competitors. Meta Quest 3 is better on everything, despite eye tracking(for a reason, it sucks for many things, I'm sure Meta can have just as good, if they wanted to, but they like…
> Apple needs a new CEO ASAP, Tim is John Sculley, at first sales go up, profits are up, but then after a few years you are stuck and other companies are eating your lunch.
I predicted this many years ago, but the evidence I've seen convinces me I was wrong. I really disagreed with their past emphasis on the iPad as a computer at the expense of the Mac, but I feel they've course-corrected since.
Of course, on a long enough time scale you/me are right but I think that timescale extends beyond Tim Cook's retirement, at this point.
What evidence do you have?
Re: Apple Vision Nope: Why I returned mine
#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
The description[0] states: "Compliant with PCIE 4.0 X4 80Gbps full speed support." But I suppose it could be inaccurate. [0] https://www.amazon.com/M-2-Adapter-Aluminum-Heatsink-Solutio...
Oh, that type of adapter. Those work but they'll only fit in the Mac Pro, which has a $3000 premium over a Mac Studio with exactly the same specs, so you're unlikely to come out ahead there.
Sorry, I realized I misread your previous comment. I thought you were saying the markup on a PCIe drive for the Mac Pro was too high. Now I understand you were referring to the markup on the Mac Pro itself.
Re: Apple Vision Nope: Why I returned mine
#154Why on Earth can people return these for non-fault reasons?! It's the other customers who bear the cost to cover this - like indecisive ditzy clothes shoppers who order huge numbers of items knowing they'll return 90% of them.
Why wouldn't you be able to return anything you buy if it doesn't meet your expectations? It looks like Apple's return window (that's called very generous in a sibling comment) is just the minimum allowed by the law, here.
It will vary by jurisdiction but in the UK you can return something if faulty or if not suited for the purpose sold and there are some distance selling protections, but just not liking it isn't generally a valid reason.
I suspect in the US it's more lax but the whole caveat emptor thing is out the window if you can arbitrarily return things - for worn products they won't even be directly resellable.
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#155Most people are dreaming of currently-impossible lightweight AR glasses. I think this is a product trap, trying to skip too many steps. It is like trying to build a smartphone in the 70s. They should go for a helmet. And I don't mean even bulkier ski-goggles, but a real full face helmet, fighter-pilot or biker style. Full of high-tech hardware but balanced in a way that makes it useable for more than 20 minutes. It i…
Yeah if I'm using this thing around the house anyway I don't mind.
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
App store = entire Apple ecosystem.
Oh why haven’t Apple Watch apps taken off then? Or what about the macOS App Store, why is that dead?
sigh, you seem to be lacking basic knowledge in this area. I can buy/download an app for my iPhone and have it available on Watch/iPad/iPhone/Mac. There was 90 billion dollars spent on the app store last year alone and it is only increasing.
Re: Apple Vision Nope: Why I returned mine
#157"It’s a V1 Apple product. It’s a new category, for them, and by far the most ambitious headset on the consumer market." Well, all other V1 Apple products weren't half-assed, or at least when they were, they offered something more than the competitors. Meta Quest 3 is better on everything, despite eye tracking(for a reason, it sucks for many things, I'm sure Meta can have just as good, if they wanted to, but they like…
MQP has eye tracking. In some sense the Oculus Touch controllers are a hassle (two more objects to manage, you have to explain to users which of the 10 buttons they should press, etc.) but the touch controllers let you pick things up, use tools, and otherwise interact with the virtual world with your hands.
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
We’ve had consumer VR headsets on the market for 8 years now (Oculus Rift CV1). Why would apps suddenly start appearing now, what makes Apple so different?
People actually spend money on the App Store.
People spend money on apps (mostly games) from the Quest store.
Re: Apple Vision Nope: Why I returned mine
#159"It’s a V1 Apple product. It’s a new category, for them, and by far the most ambitious headset on the consumer market." Well, all other V1 Apple products weren't half-assed, or at least when they were, they offered something more than the competitors. Meta Quest 3 is better on everything, despite eye tracking(for a reason, it sucks for many things, I'm sure Meta can have just as good, if they wanted to, but they like…
> Apple needs a new CEO ASAP, Tim is John Sculley, at first sales go up, profits are up, but then after a few years you are stuck and other companies are eating your lunch. I predicted this many years ago, but the evidence I've seen convinces me I was wrong. I really disagreed with their past emphasis on the iPad as a computer at the expense of the Mac, but I feel they've course-corrected since. Of course, on a long…
An iPad (backed by a big Windows machine) is my "on the go" computing device now.
Re: Apple Vision Nope: Why I returned mine
#160"It’s a V1 Apple product. It’s a new category, for them, and by far the most ambitious headset on the consumer market." Well, all other V1 Apple products weren't half-assed, or at least when they were, they offered something more than the competitors. Meta Quest 3 is better on everything, despite eye tracking(for a reason, it sucks for many things, I'm sure Meta can have just as good, if they wanted to, but they like…
I think Apple has a significant leg up over Meta in the software space, and this shouldn’t be underestimated. visionOS has a proper AR UI framework with affordances for AR/VR usage whereas the Quest is just Android mapped to 3D space. This will become more of an advantage for Apple as the platform matures because it’ll allow for (for example) automatic adaptations of existing apps for different device form factors, w…
I thought AVP was just "iOS mapped to 3D space". Apple has been proliferating form factors for many years and has done little on "automatic adaptations of existing apps for different device form factors" so far.