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Apple Vision Nope: Why I returned mine

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Re: Apple Vision Nope: Why I returned mine

#41
I suspect Meta understands its users a little better: If people are gonna strap something to their face, it's because they want to be immersed in some alternate reality.

Right now there just isn't a killer app. But I suspect Generative AI is the path to one- fully immersive, hyper-realistic, real-time generated worlds will be killer, and something only VR can really immerse you in.

Re: Apple Vision Nope: Why I returned mine

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> When we price out things in the USA we pretend sales tax doesn’t exist, but it does, hoo boy it does, and most of us pay it. The price breakdown in this article was probably the most useful part. There was a slim chance I would have considered a product like this for $3700, but $5000 is simply too much for my budget.

Some states don't have sales tax.

Ok.

Some states have higher sales tax also.

Re: Apple Vision Nope: Why I returned mine

#43

One of the challenges is that a lot of his complaints are things that you can EASILY see being addressed -- most other VR headsets benefit from 3rd party straps that make a hugely significant difference in comfort, the app ecosystem hasn't even begun since folks. haven't had a device available, so hopefully there'll be many more use cases, Apple internally already has mirroring of multiple screens, etc. Yet my fear i…

>most other VR headsets benefit from 3rd party straps that make a hugely significant difference in comfort

Every other VR headset in question costs a fraction of the price and has sold a multiple of the units. The way their strap interfaces with the headset also appears to be a significantly larger engineering effort than other VR headsets. So basically, you'll be spending multiple hundreds of dollars after having already spent $3500 for the vision pro. That's insanity.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT213994

Re: Apple Vision Nope: Why I returned mine

#44

One of the challenges is that a lot of his complaints are things that you can EASILY see being addressed -- most other VR headsets benefit from 3rd party straps that make a hugely significant difference in comfort, the app ecosystem hasn't even begun since folks. haven't had a device available, so hopefully there'll be many more use cases, Apple internally already has mirroring of multiple screens, etc. Yet my fear i…

I'm curious which models you mean by "esoteric Macs"? All I can think of are maybe the cube and the TAM?

Re: Apple Vision Nope: Why I returned mine

#45
post #11

> When we price out things in the USA we pretend sales tax doesn’t exist, but it does, hoo boy it does, and most of us pay it. The price breakdown in this article was probably the most useful part. There was a slim chance I would have considered a product like this for $3700, but $5000 is simply too much for my budget.

Some states don't have sales tax.

NAXALT (not all X are like that) isn't really a useful comment.

Re: Apple Vision Nope: Why I returned mine

#46
It’s first gen tech. I do agree its usefulness at the moment is not there.

Maybe it’s the lack of apps that take advantage of the tech. Or the overall usability (in this case, significant eye strain/fatigue, heavy headset in the authors point of view m).

I was expecting more augmented reality rather than a simple block of an app and the ability to move it across the 360 view.

Just like the original iPhone. It was far behind the competition but years later it dominated the smart phone market. Albeit, Steve Jobs was the CEO at the time and that probably was a large portion of it. He was just a great salesman.

I can’t say the same for Tim. Great guy, I guess. But hardly memorable.

Re: Apple Vision Nope: Why I returned mine

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post #11

> When we price out things in the USA we pretend sales tax doesn’t exist, but it does, hoo boy it does, and most of us pay it. The price breakdown in this article was probably the most useful part. There was a slim chance I would have considered a product like this for $3700, but $5000 is simply too much for my budget.

Some states don't have sales tax.

Not only that, but even on the same street you could have varying sales tax from the store 100ft down the road because you are on the border of a city/municipality that has their own tax applied.

There really is no good alternative than to just omit tax and have the customer expect 5-7% typically.

Re: Apple Vision Nope: Why I returned mine

#49
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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their storage markups only get more obscene with retail SSD prices continuing to crash. $800 to upgrade from 256GB to 2TB? A fast 2TB NVMe drive can be had for ~$130.

> A fast 2TB NVMe drive can be had for ~$130 Not if the drive is soldered to the motherboard..

With thin laptops you can maybe justify that as a necessary compromise for the form factor, but there's no good reason the Mac Studio shouldn't have a hatch on the bottom with two or three M.2 2280 slots inside.

You can put your own PCIe SSDs in the Mac Pro, but that's so wildly marked up compared to an equivalently specced Mac Studio that it probably cancels out any savings.

Re: Apple Vision Nope: Why I returned mine

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post #34
post #4

Five grand is insane.

I mean, it's less than the original macintosh (which would be 7k today)

That's fine if you're selling a niche product:

> Sales were strong at its initial release on January 24, 1984, at $2,495 (equivalent to $7,000 in 2022), and reached 70,000 units on May 3, 1984.

I think Apple wants to sell more than 70,000 of these things though.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_128K

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