Hetzner is nirvana for pre-ramen profitable big data startups. You can build a cluster for a whole lot less than Amazon-- in many cases 1/10th the cost (depending on which resources are higher priority, for us.) The question is-- can you host in germany and serve a customer base that is primarily in the USA? Our application isn't too latency intensive... but this is my primary concern. Would it be stupid for an ameri…
I would as well. What is the typical latency from the west coast and east coast of the US?
European server provider Hetzner now offers a 64GB RAM box for 109€/mon
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#152Does anyone know how they can provide bandwidth for so cheap? 7 EUR for a TB of traffic is insanely cheap.
nearly-free peering at http://de-cix.net/ and http://www.n-ix.net/ to offload a big load of traffic + bandwidth and fibres are not that expensive here in Germany (unless you go with Deutsche Telekom).
That's great information. Why hasn't this happened in the US as well?
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#153Does anyone use http://burst.net/ ? I've found them to be one of the cheapest VPS providers. May want to check them out if hosting in Germany is not an option.
I use it to host http://livepost.in since last month. Pingdom reported some small downtimes but other than that it was ok. You get what you pay for, but I think burst.net is value for money.
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am from India, have a server with them and was not asked for any documentation. May be it is a recent change. Given that you pay for the server in advance, a VPS is essentially zero risk for them. I am also surprised by this requirement.
It's definitely not a recent change, they required a copy of a photo ID as early as 2005 when I got my first server there. Don't remember being asked for a credit card scan ever though.
I didn't have to give them anything (I'm in the UK) but a client in Australia did. So maybe there's an EU thing at play (or just a risk assessment based on countries' fraud levels).
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#155Hetzner is nirvana for pre-ramen profitable big data startups. You can build a cluster for a whole lot less than Amazon-- in many cases 1/10th the cost (depending on which resources are higher priority, for us.) The question is-- can you host in germany and serve a customer base that is primarily in the USA? Our application isn't too latency intensive... but this is my primary concern. Would it be stupid for an ameri…
Don't forget that "hosted in Germany" is a quality mark with which you can advertise. Especially International Customers don't like the idea of their data being stored in a country where the Patriot Act is a present reality.
It's not even about a choice, as companies from EU countries can't store store user identification data of EU citizens in US servers. So you are more or less legally forced to have (some) servers in EU.
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#156any ideas why it has a 32GB limit for windows?
MS might be doing RAM-based license pricing.
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#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
TLDR: You do almost the same thing in the USA, only it is automated. We have the patriot act which requires collecting a lot of info-- the US has centralized databases (namely credit reports) that allow easy authentication of people. Outside the USA, they don't have the patriot act, but they have a lot of similar laws, and thus collecting a copy of your passport lets them know you're not an identity thief and lets th…
I mostly agree with what you say. I was a bit angry because they didn't mention this at the time of signing up. It might be somewhere in the t&c but I think this kind of information should be explicitly told viz. we require your passport and credit card photo to sign you up with our service. I didn't like the callousness with which they request the information. Another commenter mentioned he talked to them and they s…
> a copy of my passport is with my employer, my landlord, custom offices and a bazillion other places
It is? Where do you live that this is a normal thing?
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#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mostly agree with what you say. I was a bit angry because they didn't mention this at the time of signing up. It might be somewhere in the t&c but I think this kind of information should be explicitly told viz. we require your passport and credit card photo to sign you up with our service. I didn't like the callousness with which they request the information. Another commenter mentioned he talked to them and they s…
> a copy of my passport is with my employer, my landlord, custom offices and a bazillion other places It is? Where do you live that this is a normal thing?
> I am an Indian living in India.
Unless you were looking for something more specific.
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#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mostly agree with what you say. I was a bit angry because they didn't mention this at the time of signing up. It might be somewhere in the t&c but I think this kind of information should be explicitly told viz. we require your passport and credit card photo to sign you up with our service. I didn't like the callousness with which they request the information. Another commenter mentioned he talked to them and they s…
> a copy of my passport is with my employer, my landlord, custom offices and a bazillion other places It is? Where do you live that this is a normal thing?
As a brazilian, I find it somewhat strange, but not that much.
Not only we have a national ID system (not one, but two systems, both with unique numeric IDs), we are required to photocopy them, along with proof of residence and several other things (for instance, something to prove that you do have an income and how much), in order to perform simple actions such as cellphone purchases (with a plan). You'd have to provide "only" your ID (CPF) with a pre-paid plan.
To be employed at most places, that same info has to be provided, more or less (you don't need to prove income, but you'll probably be required to provide a criminal record).
This is probably because of how trustworthy we are perceived to be. Nothing gets done without at least a proof of identity (sometimes, even using check or credit card purchases at regular stores). Not to mention the fact that we are..."advised" to carry ID papers everywhere, and the police will be somewhat displeased if they decide to take an interest on you and you have nothing with you to prove who you are, even though I am not aware of anything resembling a "Stop and Identify" law. I was never asked to provide ID, though. Were I black and poor, my guess is that it would have happened several times already, along with random street searches.
All that said, I've never had to provide my passport to anyone, anywhere, except US embassies. Most brazilians are not required or even expected to have one (and is not required when travelling inside Mercosul).