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European server provider Hetzner now offers a 64GB RAM box for 109€/mon

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Re: European server provider Hetzner now offers a 64GB RAM box for 109€/mon

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Post by _gfrc »

calloc wrote: post #139
_gfrc wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is true, but you have to keep in mind that you have to get the flexipack if you want to run more than 3 virtual machines with their own ip on it. And honestly - if my server had 64gb ram I would want to do that. "back in the days" I got my own subnet for free, now they are charging for it pretty heftily.

You get an entire /64 for IPv6. Time to make the switch.

I would love too do that, but most of my customers wouldn't be able to access the server afterwards. That's the only thing that's holding me back.

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Post by _gfrc »

irahul wrote: post #86

I have a question. Do they always ask for passport scan and credit card photograph, or I fall under some special category which makes me suspicious? Going by the rave reviews, I ordered the 512 MB vps to evaluate, and was greeted by an email asking for my passport and credit card photograph. I don't feel like doing business with them anymore. I am a bit uncomfortable about sharing my credit card info. But since I alr…

The first reason has been explained already: They are afraid of (online) credit card and identify theft.

The second reason, why a lot of people (especially from Germany) will not be asked to provide a scan, is that they have a credit history in Germany. It is really common to check your credit history first. The german credit agency they are using probably has no information about you, that is why Hetzner wants to make sure that you are not trying to defraud them.

It can be really tough to buy stuff online in Germany if the local credit agencies don't have information about your credit history.

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Post by wmf »

jules wrote: post #61
Smerity wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't looked at SoftLayer's offerings re: RAM but the most important thing to note with Hetzner is that only some of their dedicated machines have error-correcting code (ECC) memory. Hetzner's 16GB machine[1] (89 Euros/month) has ECC memory for example. Whilst this might not sound like an enormous issue, DRAM errors are surprisingly common in real deployments[2] and can result in scary things happening to your da…

How common DRAM errors are is very unclear. The numbers in that paper are astronomically high, but other sources have published numbers that are 30x or 100,000x or literally 10,000,000x lower. See this Stanford ee380 talk: http://stanford-online.stanford.edu/courses/ee380/100922-ee3... The part about DRAM errors is about 57 minutes in. Abstract here: http://www.stanford.edu/class/ee380/Abstracts/100922.html Also, AFA…

Amazon uses Xeons and Opterons where ECC is pretty much mandatory. They don't have an option for ECC because all their servers have it.

Re: European server provider Hetzner now offers a 64GB RAM box for 109€/mon

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Post by corin_ »

meskyanichi wrote: post #73
ashleyw wrote: post #38

Their VPS service looks fantastic also: http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produktmatrix_vserver/vserv... Their 2GB plan is 3x cheaper than Linode…and you get over 4x the data transfer! Does anyone know how the performance compares?

You could also just get a dedicated server with a good chunk of ram. Say, 32gb or the new 64gb one. Then install XEN or KVM on it and run your own VPS farm instead. It'll save you $800-1600 USD/month in the long-run once you fill up the whole box with VPSs. Another thing to note is that the new 64gb instance trucks a hexacore (6) core CPU and includes hyper-threading. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this…

I'm no expert, but how many VPSs could you run nicely with just a typical CPU in there?

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Post by jsnell »

abhaga wrote: post #103
irahul wrote: post #86

I have a question. Do they always ask for passport scan and credit card photograph, or I fall under some special category which makes me suspicious? Going by the rave reviews, I ordered the 512 MB vps to evaluate, and was greeted by an email asking for my passport and credit card photograph. I don't feel like doing business with them anymore. I am a bit uncomfortable about sharing my credit card info. But since I alr…

I am from India, have a server with them and was not asked for any documentation. May be it is a recent change. Given that you pay for the server in advance, a VPS is essentially zero risk for them. I am also surprised by this requirement.

It's definitely not a recent change, they required a copy of a photo ID as early as 2005 when I got my first server there. Don't remember being asked for a credit card scan ever though.

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Post by Egregore »

runako wrote: post #111

Would anyone care to comment on the quality and English skills of their support? We considered Hetzner, but were concerned about the potential pitfalls of doing low-level support with a language barrier.

If they don't outsource their support then most people in Germany I talked with know English very well.

Re: European server provider Hetzner now offers a 64GB RAM box for 109€/mon

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Post by corin_ »

Egregore wrote: post #142

Network availability 99% is very bad, it's about 3 days/year of downtime. (If you have clients - they will kill you)

Personally I pay little attention to network availability promises - all they mean is that you get pro-rated refunds if downtime exceeds them. 3 days downtime is possible wherever you go, and if it happens I don't care a huge amount if I get a refund of 10% of a month's costs or not - the damage is in the downtime, not the wasted money.

What's important is the company's track record, and the likelyhood of that record changing, and from what I've heard Hetzner look pretty good in this area.

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Post by corford »

nirvana wrote: post #115
corford wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What happens when the host box dies? If you build in redundancy, the costs start spiralling quite quickly...

Wouldn't the risk of that be exactly the same as the risk of a host box dying at for any VPS product anywhere? Specifically I'm sure Hetzner is running their VPS product on the same boxes, since one of their methods is to have a very standardized, custom designed box (like google does).

The good VPS providers have fail over hosts so that they can move your guest if the primary host is experiencing issues (e.g. RAID degradation). Linode have this for example (I know because one of my 512MB guests got moved recently).

Edit: Leaseweb (who are on a VMWare stack) also offer something similar via Vmotion

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Post by ezequiel-garzon »

ashleyw wrote: post #38

Their VPS service looks fantastic also: http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produktmatrix_vserver/vserv... Their 2GB plan is 3x cheaper than Linode…and you get over 4x the data transfer! Does anyone know how the performance compares?

Alvotech (also German) offers roughly the same specs for about half the price, after a 10€ setup fee [1]. Although I haven't yet pushed these virtual servers to the limit in any sense, I can say I'm a happy customer.

[1] http://www.alvotech.de/vserver/?lang=en

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