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The changing face of post-pandemic New York City

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Re: The changing face of post-pandemic New York City

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Cities are amazingly resilient and it feels like every generation has a moment in which the city largest and most local to them is having a revival. Seems most large metros are going through some post-COVID pains: Increase in crime, extreme high cost of living, etc. New York will, like always, come back. But! The benefit to our mid size cities is great. We need these mid size cities to grow, and from my understanding…

I generally agree with this sentiment.

However, unlike the situation in the 1980's, there's no desire to address any of their problems because it undermines so many ideological premises the residents cling to. Coupled with the most morally narcissistic people on the face of the Earth, I don't see any turnaround.

The mechanisms necessary to avoid becoming Detroit are not there

Re: The changing face of post-pandemic New York City

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The "resilience" argument was misused and misapplied during the pandemic. You also saw it used for school closures -- "kids are resilient". It seems to justify inflicting known harms by having faith in "resilience".

covid spread through kids like wildfire, often via asymptomatic infections which then spread to, and killed, elderly who just wanted to see their grandkids. The amount of pushback these measures got, when we were literally just trying to save lives and prevent disability through long covid absolutely staggers the mind and erodes my faith in humanity.

On the other hand, there's a deep learning deficit that that generation will never recover from. That has costs too, and people trapped in a bad economic situation because of shitty schooling have reduced lifespans as well.

Re: The changing face of post-pandemic New York City

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Only around 0.4% of the city's population died of COVID, as of March 2023.

Every government has a justification to minimize Covid deaths. And that quote is the 'official death toll'.

My guess is this is grossly underreported. My original idea to track deaths was to compare before-covid year-to-year to during and after. Using death records would sidestep the 'died from covid' and 'died from covid but written down as something else'.

But hot damn. My post is at -4. Sure seems like people really don't appreciate 'intellectual curiosity' that much.

Re: The changing face of post-pandemic New York City

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> erodes my faith in humanity Opposite for me. Maybe people still care about freedom and agency after all.

Or maybe our inability to collectively act and sacrifice to save over a million people is damning. It absolutely gutted my faith that we'll successfully tackle climate change.

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Re: The changing face of post-pandemic New York City

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I live in NYC. The problem is that there’s literally 0 housing. That’s it. Literally so many people want to move here, but you look on all of streeteasy on a given day and there’s like 500 apartments. In a city of millions. Sure you can pay more and get something. But it used to be that you traded a lot of quality of life (in unit washer dryer, dishwasher, ac, no walkups, cars, space, etc) for a lower price and the s…

Don't forget the RealPage collusion by landlords, which pushed up rents considerably (in NYC too?)

https://www.propublica.org/article/yieldstar-rent-increase-r...

Re: The changing face of post-pandemic New York City

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>I live in NYC. The problem is that there’s literally 0 housing. That’s it. >Literally so many people want to move here, but you look on all of streeteasy on a given day and there’s like 500 apartments. In a cities of millions. I'm currently in my mid-30's. Throughout all of my 20's, I thought it would be a blast to live in NYC. Then I had a good stretch where I visited it a whole bunch of times, hanging out with fri…

I moved here about 10 years ago in my mid 20s. It's certainly more expensive and annoying to find housing here than other places I've lived, but it's more than balanced out by needing to own an automobile. The average cost of car ownership in the US is in the $10k-12k range. I certainly don't spent an extra thousand dollars on rent here vs say, any other place I might reasonably move. So I figure I'm still coming out…

Owning a car is far cheaper than living in NYC!

You definitely spend more than $10-12k/year once you have a family for even a modest amount of space.

And that's the average cost of car ownership, it's easy to find a cheap car.

Re: The changing face of post-pandemic New York City

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>I live in NYC. The problem is that there’s literally 0 housing. That’s it. >Literally so many people want to move here, but you look on all of streeteasy on a given day and there’s like 500 apartments. In a cities of millions. I'm currently in my mid-30's. Throughout all of my 20's, I thought it would be a blast to live in NYC. Then I had a good stretch where I visited it a whole bunch of times, hanging out with fri…

>...the topic of conversation among locals, both locals who knew each other and locals who just met one another, was about where they're living, how much their rent is, what kind of battle they had to go through to get the place ... New Yorkers have been doing this for decades upon decades. When I moved here in the early 2000s I thought it was weird too, but it's totally normal to ask those sorts of questions of each…

It's been the storyline of many sitcoms at least going back to at least the 90s set in Manhattan. The Andrea Doria episode of Seinfeld immediately comes to mind...

Re: The changing face of post-pandemic New York City

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This would make sense if the population growth was increasing but at a slower rate. But, the population is actively declining. Somehow, 5.3% of people went from having housing to leaving, so I don’t think housing is the only story here.

There's absolutely a housing shortage. Fewer people living in one unit is how you get a shrinking population while the housing supply remains static. And rent control exacerbates it, as you have literally over a million people that are a "locked into" their below-market rate units and can never leave because they'll never find anything that cheap elsewhere, regardless of whether they still need that much space. My gr…

> Fewer people living in one unit is how you get a shrinking population while the housing supply remains static.

No, that's not how normal distributions work. Among the 5.3%, some significant portion of those left empty housing units in their wake. They weren't all 3rd roommates that left.

Re: The changing face of post-pandemic New York City

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A large percentage of the population relies on school for childcare. No childcare = no work = no money. A large percentage of those families didn’t have elderly in the home or visiting. For them, in-person school was critical.

...and hence why we helped those people who were unemployed and had children.

"Helped" as in the $600 stimulus checks people got that was supposed to cover groceries for 6 months while they couldn't pay rent?
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