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Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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I see several listed in my area for around $53k. So approximately yes.

What you see listed and what the dealer will actually give it to you for are not necessarily the same thing, infamously so in the case of in-demand models like this.

Car dealers say they can’t sell EVs, tell Biden to slow their rollout

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38460281

I wonder if the price-gouge-EV-customers and complain-about-EV-subsidies groups overlap... Hmm.

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Steer by wire sounds like a disastrous idea to me, especially in a car made with attention to detail of Tesla. I'm not even sure where to start. It's less reliable, surely it must be (at least without significant investment into QA and redundancy). A physical wheel physically connected to bits turning the wheels, well, the power steering can do, but you can still turn the thing. Then, it's all software driven. And it…

Yeah look at planes. I'd rather have hydraulics and mechanical controls still in a car. Which is why I drive a primitive POS (Dacia Duster).

Tell me you have zero flight time or aircraft engineering experience without telling me you have zero flight time or aircraft engineering experience. This is no different from Trump claiming he wanted "damn steam" for aircraft carrier catapults despite electromagnetic ones having clear advantages. This isn't 1969 anymore.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Seems like there's been relatively less attention on the 48V/800V architecture and the Ethernet comms/steer by wire setup, but I think those are what make this particular vehicle quite interesting. Up until recently I think 48V power electronics have been fairly rare outside of telecom/other high cost situations, but I suppose one major difference is that at 48V, transformer-based DC-DC conversion is usually a better…

why do steer by wire at all? Is it cheaper somehow?

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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The electric F150 weighs 6500 lbs...1,800-pound battery.

Yeah, reading my post, I didn't do a great job making the point I set out to. I was considering the size of the Cybertruck, wondering if Tesla were trying more for the Tacoma & Ranger sized truck market. I started to make that point and then looked up the weight of the Cybertruck and attempted (poorly) to use it as a metric for the size. I should've just used overall length, which would've been more clear and wouldn'…

It's about a foot longer than a Ranger Supercab and 10" shorter than an F150 Supercrew.

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The cheapest F150 Lightning (available today not in 2025) is $50k (vs $60k for Cybertruck), same 250 mile range but AWD standard , and is a regular pickup truck compatible with standard accessories and parts for doing actual pickup truck work. Of course, most of the buyers of either the Cybertruck or the F150 Lightning probably aren't getting much dirt under their fingernails. Everyone I know doing construction/trade…

I'd vote for updated bmw i3 as well. that thing was under appreciated.

I like the Minis personally. But they are 10k more than a bolt. Something about chickens not paying their taxes?

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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> Prices assume IRA Federal Tax Credits up to $7,500 for Rear-Wheel Drive and All-Wheel Drive and est. gas savings of $3,600 over 3 years. This seems like a new low in scammy marketing. I can't wait for everything to have wildly undermarked prices with small asterisks saying it's when you subtract all the ways it will save you money in the long term.

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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see several listed in my area for around $53k. So approximately yes.

What you see listed and what the dealer will actually give it to you for are not necessarily the same thing, infamously so in the case of in-demand models like this.

I think the tide has turned on the Lightening. I know that dealers near me are trying to sell the ones they have.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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The cheapest F150 Lightning (available today not in 2025) is $50k (vs $60k for Cybertruck), same 250 mile range but AWD standard , and is a regular pickup truck compatible with standard accessories and parts for doing actual pickup truck work. Of course, most of the buyers of either the Cybertruck or the F150 Lightning probably aren't getting much dirt under their fingernails. Everyone I know doing construction/trade…

> Everyone I know doing construction/trade work tends to drive much smaller pickups.

Smaller than an F150? Maybe it's because I live in the Bay Area where there's more money being thrown around but trucks of that size and larger seem to be common for trade workers.

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Oh wow. I missed that. That even feels illegal. FTC might come calling on that practice. Edit: Other comments say they've been doing that for a while, even with the 3 series. So, I guess it's accepted? Urgh.

I think they do it for the intentional Streisand effect. In other words it generates a new thread on social media once in a while, with people talking about whether or not there are cost of ownership savings, with the truth generally coming down in Tesla's favor. And still regardless of how you interpret the cost equation, the controversy brings attention. And more in line with Occam's razor it just spurs awareness i…

“The competition does shady things too” isn’t really an argument for this not being a simple case of posting misleading prices…
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